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Post subject: 65 Princeton Reverb Reissue
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 12:48 am
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Hi, I'm new here.

I'm totally loving mine... don't see much threads on this amp on this forum.

Anyways, I'd like to know if this is a Class A or Class AB amp? Anyone knows? It's not on the specs list on the site.


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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:03 am
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Probably because it's pretty pricey low wattage amp. It's a class AB amp. Class a Amp are like you Champs etc. Great amps, IMHO It's just a lot of cash for a PCB constructed amp.


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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:11 pm
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Hey demioblue:

How long have you had your Princeton? I've been thinking of purchasing one but wanted to check around and see what others have to say about reliability, quality, etc. I hope to get to a music store in a few days and play through it for myself. I've played through the DRRI and really like its sound but then the Princeton came along. Your thoughts would be much appreciated.


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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:12 pm
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I see... Well, I've not felt so far any feeling of regret due to price. It's everything I asked for. Reverb, Tremolo, 6v6 and 15 watts. Wish it came with a 12" and a standby switch though... (yeah yeah... reissue... I know...) but it's fine for me as it is now. I'm fine with a Class AB. It's served me very well for the past year.

I just wish this model was released earlier. Hahahaha...


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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:18 pm
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senggedorje wrote:
How long have you had your Princeton? I've been thinking of purchasing one but wanted to check around and see what others have to say about reliability, quality, etc. I hope to get to a music store in a few days and play through it for myself. I've played through the DRRI and really like its sound but then the Princeton came along. Your thoughts would be much appreciated.


I've had it for a year. no issues about quality so far, though i've not really gigged much with it, or cranked it up. I've mainly taken the volume knob up to 3 max, and my EQ knobs are full on.

I used to think this was the vibrato channel of the DRRI. Then when I compared it with my friend's DRRI, is a very different animal. It's so far my fav amp. I've stopped looking for other blackface amps ever since I got this. So much so I actually thought of buying another one just to shoehorn in a 12" so I could have the same amp, with a different voice. The speaker baffle is removable... nice of Fender to think of that.

Oh, and it takes pedals VERY well. Unlike what some say about the Vibrato Channel of the DRRI.


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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:32 pm
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Thanks for such a thorough reply. I love the sounds I've heard coming from the amp on youtube and via the music of Jim Campilongo, as well as the portability and practicality of it for myself: I don't gig, usually play at low volumes with others, and don't care to lug around a heavy amp. I had a Blues Deluxe but it was the opposite of my above stated needs. I'm glad to hear you like the Princeton so well. I played through a vintage Princeton Reverb about a year ago and was impressed then, but the reissue hadn't been released.


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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 8:07 pm
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senggedorje wrote:
Thanks for such a thorough reply. I love the sounds I've heard coming from the amp on youtube and via the music of Jim Campilongo, as well as the portability and practicality of it for myself: I don't gig, usually play at low volumes with others, and don't care to lug around a heavy amp. I had a Blues Deluxe but it was the opposite of my above stated needs. I'm glad to hear you like the Princeton so well. I played through a vintage Princeton Reverb about a year ago and was impressed then, but the reissue hadn't been released.


The Princeton would be perfect for you. It's not really a gigging amp. It's more of a practice/recording amp. I had an original many moons ago.
Not really good in a band situation unless you mic it. Sort of a one trick pony too. The reissue is a pcb amp. That's why I have an issue with the price. If it was about half the price it is now, I would be reclaiming my childhood. The prices are falling on the used market.


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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:34 pm
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63supro wrote:
The reissue is a pcb amp. That's why I have an issue with the price. If it was about half the price it is now, I would be reclaiming my childhood. The prices are falling on the used market.


Point taken. However, having NEVER played through an original 65 blackfaced Princeton Reverb (I've only played the 64 Princeton with no reverb), I can't tell much difference, and if this is the only way for me to recapture those tones without having to worry about voltage and maintenance issues (I live in Singapore), then I'm fine with it. I really wanted an amp with 6v6 and 15 watts and a reverb. I've not come across any other nicer amp at this size for my liking. Usually something would be missing. But not in this case.

One trick pony? That's fine with me. A good clean tone is what I really need. I let pedals do the rest. :wink:


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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:01 am
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I played a 60's Princeton amp about two weeks ago at a GC. They wanted $1800 for it. There was no head room on the amp, and every time I hit the strings, with the amp on 2, I thought the whole damn thing was going to explode. So I offer this as evidence that one must be very careful when buying a "vintage" amp.

The other comment I think really needs to be made concerns value. After some period of time, each musician gets a clear idea as to what sound is his/her sound. I think that is what one is buying with an instrument, which an amp is half of the electric guitar instrument. If a 15 watt PCB constructed amp is the sound one wants, it's probably the best value to buy it. Otherwise, one will always feel the need to hop from one instrument/amp to the next. Which is quite expensive. A few years ago I finally bought the strat I've always wanted and am no longer looking for "the" guitar. Now it's down to the amp. I bought my strat expecting it to last decades. I have the same intent with an amplifier. So my real concern with this amp is quality/longevity, and does it produce my sound. If it does, $900 is good value, presuming I won't be trading it in in fifteen months because suddenly I feel I need something with fewer or more knobs on it. I think we musicians finagle ourselves into wasting loads of money buying inferior instruments because we're in search of a good deal. We might be better served looking for good value over the long run.

I think, 63Supro, you've had that experience of buying something inferior, the HtRdDlx which is (was) a moderately priced amp for what it's supposed to achieve. I sympathize with you, I had one as well, which had channel switching problems. Don't you wish you'd found the right one for a few hundred more? Perhaps a Super Sonic? You wouldn't have lost nearly as must sleep. (This isn't to absolve Fender of producing a shoddy amp, but guys like us should know the relationship between quality and dollars.) I've come to realize that cheap amps are for the kids who are starting out. I've wasted hundreds, if not thousands on amps and guitars over the last ten years that we're good deals that I thought might get me by, when I didn't think I could afford what I really wanted. So enough of that.

I think musicians (guitarists) need to find the gear they want, then play. Period. We seem to fiddle too much with tubes, speakers, this setup, that setup. Are most of us really utilizing what we have in the moment to the fullest? Gear is cool, but it doesn't play itself. I want to find one good amp and play the hell out of it.


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senggedorje wrote:
I think musicians (guitarists) need to find the gear they want, then play. Period. We seem to fiddle too much with tubes, speakers, this setup, that setup. Are most of us really utilizing what we have in the moment to the fullest? Gear is cool, but it doesn't play itself. I want to find one good amp and play the hell out of it.


Now you're talking. I have stopped myself from buying needless gear a hundred times by simply asking myself, "Am I getting everything out of the gear I've got?"


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I think, 63Supro, you've had that experience of buying something inferior, the HtRdDlx which is (was) a moderately priced amp for what it's supposed to achieve. I sympathize with you, I had one as well, which had channel switching problems. Don't you wish you'd found the right one for a few hundred more? Perhaps a Super Sonic? You wouldn't have lost nearly as must sleep. (This isn't to absolve Fender of producing a shoddy amp, but guys like us should know the relationship between quality and dollars.) I've come to realize that cheap amps are for the kids who are starting out. I've wasted hundreds, if not thousands on amps and guitars over the last ten years that we're good deals that I thought might get me by, when I didn't think I could afford what I really wanted. So enough of that.

I still have a 76 Twin and my 74 Champ. I was looking for something different and lighter to gig with. I have decent equipment and don't use much in the way of pedals.

I dumping the HDRlx for an Egnater Rebel. According to Bruce Egnater, they have less than a 1% failure rate. Might be hype, might not. But they get stellar reviews.

The whole Fender amp line leaves a bad taste in my mouth now and I'll never buy another one. I don't lose any sleep over it. I don't consider the HRDlx a cheap amp. The new Champs are a different story.


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Just brought a new Princeton Reverb RI home. Store clearance new $600. Lovin' it. Watch for Tweed Blues Jr on Craigslist. This PRRI is a great house party amp. Lots of bottom, thick and loud. Great little amp.


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dual shellman wrote:
Just brought a new Princeton Reverb RI home. Store clearance new $600. Lovin' it. Watch for Tweed Blues Jr on Craigslist. This PRRI is a great house party amp. Lots of bottom, thick and loud. Great little amp.


What a great price, you lucky dog! Glad to hear you're enjoying it.


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Thanks. I had to watch it for a week before I could get it. I thought for sure somebody would beat me to the punch.


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dual shellman wrote:
Just brought a new Princeton Reverb RI home. Store clearance new $600. Lovin' it. Watch for Tweed Blues Jr on Craigslist. This PRRI is a great house party amp. Lots of bottom, thick and loud. Great little amp.
Great price. Good luck with it. 8) Mike

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