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Post subject: Blues Deluxe Reissue Settings
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:54 pm
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I have had a BDRI for about a year and haven't really gotten a whole lot of use out of it for variious reasons. I would like to get some really nice blues sounds out of it and was wondering if anyone had some setting suggestions to try. I am not opposed to pedal suggestions if needed, but would prefer to just use the amp by itself if possible. I have tried a few settings with little luck and thought I would tap into the great resources here.

By the way, my guitars are an '08 MIM Standard Strat, and '06 MIM HSS Strat and and '06 MIM Tele with a Seymour Duncan Hot Rails humbucker in the bridge position.


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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:22 pm
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I would suggest that the archetypal blues sound comes from turning your amplifier up until it begins to distort when you dig in with your pick. This will allow you maximum flexibility in terms of controlling the sound with your picking dynamics. In short, the harder you beat your guitar, the crunchier it sounds. Once you do this, you still have to EQ the beast. Everyone you talk to will have "the perfect way" of doing this, but I think the general rule suggests that the EQ should form a "V". Because the guitar is inherently a mid-heavy instrument, the mid knob can generally be reduced somewhat below half, while the bass and treble knobs can go a hair above. Keep in mind that there are many factors involved here. I have to EQ my amps much differently for a Les Paul than for a Telecaster.

When it comes to blues tones, it's important to note that more distortion/overdrive is not necessarily good. What you want is for any chord or note you play to be a little crunchy when you play it, and then decay clean. That said, it's good to have a dirt box or two -- most people swear by the TS-9 Tubescreamer, but I think the Boss SD-1 is just as good -- for boosting your tone for solos or leads. When you're using an overdrive pedal with a tube amp, keep the "drive" knob very low, and the "volume" knob very high. This will ensure that the pedal simply heats up your signal which, in turn, kicks your amp's own distortion up a gear or two. On my main SD-1, I have the volume at three quarters, and the drive just barely on.

Hope this helps...Let us know what you can do!


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Post subject: Re: Blues Deluxe Reissue Settings
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:48 am
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Strat2k6 wrote:
I have had a BDRI for about a year and haven't really gotten a whole lot of use out of it for variious reasons. I would like to get some really nice blues sounds out of it and was wondering if anyone had some setting suggestions to try. I am not opposed to pedal suggestions if needed, but would prefer to just use the amp by itself if possible. I have tried a few settings with little luck and thought I would tap into the great resources here.

By the way, my guitars are an '08 MIM Standard Strat, and '06 MIM HSS Strat and and '06 MIM Tele with a Seymour Duncan Hot Rails humbucker in the bridge position.


Thanks in advance for any help.

I have the same amp, and think it is great for blues! Perhaps its the way/notes you are playing. I usually play straight into the amp with no pedals with MIA Strat. I sometimes use a ts-10 for OD. I prefer the neck pickup but all provide nice sounds. Try bending and experiment with using your fingers instead of a pick (or alternate between the 2). I have my treble at about 6 and bass at about 8 with the reverb at 7-8. Also crank up volume to at least 3. Don't worry about speed, but focus on phrasing.
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:03 am
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Thanks Vulkan and ratboy! I will have to try your suggestions. I will let oyu know how it goes.



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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:59 am
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Hi, hope you're enjoying your Blues Deluxe. I've had mine for only a few weeks and am getting used to it. Had a Hot ROd Deville before.

The comment about guitars is important - each guitar will demand its own settings. For me, my ES 355 distorts more readily than I'd really like on the drive channel, even with the drive down to 3. My Strat needs the drive right up at 6+ to get anything like that. I go for a mild warm crunch sound which I jack up for soloing, usually using the guitar's volume control to get the extra overdrive.

Eq settings are a bit weird for me at the moment, I think because the amp is so new and the speaker needs to settle in. I get a lot of treble and have to keep it turned down, more so in the drive than the clean channel. Bass and middle both at 10, reverb down at 5 is good for me.

Vulkan's comment about using the overdrive pedal is interesting, I'm going to try setting my old one like that.


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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:04 am
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Tom De Ville wrote:
Vulkan's comment about using the overdrive pedal is interesting, I'm going to try setting my old one like that.


I thought the same thing when I heard it -- from no less than John Mayer himself -- but, after trying it, I was astounded. With my rig at least, it really makes the amp's own sound shine through as opposed to being covered by the pedal's own dirt. Just crank the pedal's volume all the way up, and turn the drive all the way off. You will probably have to roll the drive on just a hair so that some sound is actually going through the box. If I have the drive all the way off on my SD-1, the pedal does nothing at all, so I leave it on, but just barely.


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I probably should have mentioned that I mostly play rhythm and a lot of 12-bar blues stuff. Not much soloing yet. I will have to get an SD-1 especially since GC has them for $39.


Thanks again for the advice.




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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:56 am
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Geez, 39 bucks? I wish I lived in the States sometimes. We have to put up with Long & McQuade -- another GC clone -- and their prices are horrendous. I went to look at reverb pedals the other day and the swine wanted $140 for an Electro Harmonix Holy Grail and $195 for a Boss Reverb pedal! Even the SD-1 they sell for well over $70 Canadian. That said, you'll like the SD-1. It's a great pedal and, because BOSS takes pains to make its pedals robust, it will last forever. Mine was inherited from my father who has been using it since the 1980s.


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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:26 pm
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Vulkan wrote:
Tom De Ville wrote:
Vulkan's comment about using the overdrive pedal is interesting, I'm going to try setting my old one like that.


I thought the same thing when I heard it -- from no less than John Mayer himself -- but, after trying it, I was astounded. With my rig at least, it really makes the amp's own sound shine through as opposed to being covered by the pedal's own dirt. Just crank the pedal's volume all the way up, and turn the drive all the way off. You will probably have to roll the drive on just a hair so that some sound is actually going through the box. If I have the drive all the way off on my SD-1, the pedal does nothing at all, so I leave it on, but just barely.


Brilliant! I tried this out tonight at band practice with everything goin full tilt and I am amazed. Why did I never think of doing this before. Fantastic tube sound, best I've heard. Thanks, Vulkan for sharing this.


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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:28 pm
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No problem, my friend! I'm glad to pass along my (limited) knowledge! Maybe it doesn't work for anyone, but I think it's the best way (other than getting some insanely expensive boutique pedal) to make an average OD pedal sound great. I'm playing a gig this Tuesday and all I plan to take is my Telecaster, tuner, SD-1 and Pro Junior. Who needs more?


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Post subject: Re: Blues Deluxe Reissue Settings
Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:46 pm
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all i can say is if you let amplifier sound off ,by turning it up a little around 3 or 4,,5 or 6+ it will really sound off more ,,i use a les paul trad on mine & with splitting coils on the pickups it sounds awsome for blues & old rock n roll


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Post subject: Re: Blues Deluxe Reissue Settings
Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 7:56 am
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Speaker change/ speaker cable really makes the amp shine a lot more, more head room warmer tones. I use the Bogner red/blue pedals also it turns the amp to plexi sounding rock monster


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