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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:15 pm
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63supro wrote:
50 solid state watts is only like around 20-25 in tube amps. My 74 SF Champ at 6 watts is way louder than my GDec 30, or my sons Champion 30 ss amp.
Remember 50 watts is not twice as loud as 20 watts. I gig with a guy who uses an 18 watt Marshall and can blow my HRDlx right off the stage. My Deluxe Reverb can do the same thing. It depends on how much "cut" the amp has. In other words, it's ability to cut through the mix. You can get a used Deluxe Reverb Reissue for under 600 bucks, same thing with a Peavey Classic 30. I would go used tube before a solid state amp. I also would stay away from anything used in the Hot Rod Series. That's just me though and YMMV.
Well put ,i know my blues jr doesnt have the ability to cut thru the mix if i play with a loud drummer, but my Bassman has no problem . actually saw a Classic 30 for sale used for 399 at the local music store.


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Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:46 am
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If it has no issues, I'd snag it.


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budglo wrote:
63supro wrote:
50 solid state watts is only like around 20-25 in tube amps. My 74 SF Champ at 6 watts is way louder than my GDec 30, or my sons Champion 30 ss amp.
Remember 50 watts is not twice as loud as 20 watts. I gig with a guy who uses an 18 watt Marshall and can blow my HRDlx right off the stage. My Deluxe Reverb can do the same thing. It depends on how much "cut" the amp has. In other words, it's ability to cut through the mix. You can get a used Deluxe Reverb Reissue for under 600 bucks, same thing with a Peavey Classic 30. I would go used tube before a solid state amp. I also would stay away from anything used in the Hot Rod Series. That's just me though and YMMV.
Well put ,i know my blues jr doesnt have the ability to cut thru the mix if i play with a loud drummer, but my Bassman has no problem . actually saw a Classic 30 for sale used for 399 at the local music store.


That's a good price. I paid I think $600 new for mine. But when it comes down to it, if you're playing it for years and years, the price difference is really negligible.


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Vulkan wrote:
If that's your range, I'd say that you're going to have to go solid state.


Not necessarily. Peavey Valveking 100 head and Vox AC100CPH/AC50CPH hads are in that range, especially used.

Used Fender Hot Rod Deville type models are also in that range.

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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:37 pm
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CiarnC81 wrote:
My budget is between 500-700.
I should also mention that I am using a strat. I might buy a Tele some time in the future. I would also like 50 watts or more, nothing under that!!
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500-700, 50 watts. your looking at very nice solid state half stack 100 watts. however, tubes is the way to go to get that ec,bb, rory sound(well better)
for that eric clapton tone you want your tube amp to break up early,
if your a bedroom not a band local rockstar.
5-15 watts is LOUD enough, trust me. the sweet thing about the lower wattage (tube amp) is that at volumes of 6-7 is very loud bedroom level, and you have tube break up that makes you drool over.
in fact im looking at a 22 watt fender deluxe reverb 1100 US dollars.
to my ears has that sweet strat tone, and has a 12 inch speaker.
i tested that on i could hit 7 volume(amp) 6 on the guitar and that amps was singing to me.
bigger is not better. look for quality not size of wattage.


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65 twin reverb reissue. Buy a used one. New ones are 1300-1700 dollars. 85 watts or clean withreverb and vibrato. Takes pedals well. It does get LOUD.


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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 7:20 pm
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mylesw wrote:
65 twin reverb reissue. Buy a used one. New ones are 1300-1700 dollars. 85 watts or clean withreverb and vibrato. Takes pedals well. It does get LOUD.

how do you like your twin reverb?
yeah i saw that, thats why i was looking at the deluxe 112.
however i do like the 212 used better than a 112.
i have a gibson les paul dc, and 2 am strats
how does it handle the gibson les paul??


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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:57 am
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bluesstrattone wrote:
mylesw wrote:
65 twin reverb reissue. Buy a used one. New ones are 1300-1700 dollars. 85 watts or clean withreverb and vibrato. Takes pedals well. It does get LOUD.

how do you like your twin reverb?
yeah i saw that, thats why i was looking at the deluxe 112.
however i do like the 212 used better than a 112.
i have a gibson les paul dc, and 2 am strats
how does it handle the gibson les paul??


I think it sounds great. Lots of honk! The TR is very clean with a lot of headroom. I had to move it all to the basement onto a small (8'X8') stage so I could turn it up a bit. There is lots of sound absorbing junk but the room is pretty big.

I have the 498T and 490R humbuckers in the Les Paul and they put out quite a bit. My SG has P90's and don't quite have the output of the humbuckers but the tone I get is chilling! I have a tubescreamer if I want to get it dirty.

Good luck with whatever you get!


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