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Post subject: Custom 1x12 Cab for SCXD Anybody?
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:30 pm
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I just wanted to share something I came across in the Gretsch pages and see what you all think. This guy Tonehound had a custom 1x12 cabinet made for his SCXD and it turned out really nice.

Now I'm not a big fan of blonde tolex because it makes me wish it was tweed, but I really think they did a fantastic job on his cab and I'm thinking about having one made for myself.

In fact, I honestly believe if Fender were to do this with the 1x12 speaker in traditional blackface as well they would be flying out the door. EDIT: I don't want to confuse the issue by suggesting anything bigger than 1x12.

Anyway, I'm posting the link because I really don't think it's fair to post the pics since they're not mine. Check it out and tell me what you think about the 1x12 cab for the price- I'm really wondering if this is a good deal?

Am I the only one who can't understand why Fender is not making SCXD bigger- does anybody think the future may hold a bigger SCXD?

My compliments to Tonehound and his mighty cool modded SCXD!

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:pNrMDoeSAzUJ:http://gretschpages.com/forum/other-amps/super-champ-xd-combo-cabinet/17110/page1/+SUPER+CHAMP+XD+CUSTOM+12+CAB+BLONDE+TOLEX&hl=en&ct=clnk


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Post subject: Re: Custom 1x12 Cab for SCXD Anybody?
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:02 am
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SRVWANNAB wrote:
In fact, I honestly believe if Fender were to do this with the 1x12 speaker in traditional blackface as well they would be flying out the door


Maybe I'm missing something, but what about this?
http://fender.com/products/search.php?s ... enclosures

SRVWANNAB wrote:
especially if they also offerred 30 watt or 50 watt 2x12.


... and this ...
http://fender.com/products/search.php?partno=2161200000

SRVWANNAB wrote:
Also, am I the only one who can't understand why Fender is not making SCXD bigger- does anybody think the future may hold a bigger SCXD?


... and this ...
http://www.fender.com/products//search. ... 2220000000

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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:21 pm
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Hi Tomk62, I appreciate your comments- obviously I was basically making the obvious plea for a SCXD in a 1x12 cabinet- can you provide me with some links to one of those? Do any of those enclosures accommodate a front loaded chasis like SCXD? Anyway, I would have bought a 1x12 SCXD if they made one and obviously if they can make SCXD for $300 (now going up to $350-$400) they can make SCXD 1X12 for less than the $800 VM.

Anyway, I just wanted to share with other SCXD owners what others are doing to get around it.


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Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 7:52 pm
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Man, I gotta tell ya', that blonde 12" combo is fine. I would love to do this too SRVWANNAB. My problem is that I've tried other speakers, and the tone gets thin over the stock speaker. Louder, but thin. In another post you say you're running it through a separate 12" cab. Is the tone preserved? Really, with all the bass harmonics? If so, a SCXD in a grab-and-go 12" combo is just to drool over. I have an Eminence Swamp Thang that's callin' my name in the garage for bolting in to that blonde cab.

And no, you are not the only one who doesn't understand why this doesn't have a 12" in the box to start with. Though, that 10" is toneful, I have to admit.


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Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 1:18 pm
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WhatsThatSmell wrote:
Man, I gotta tell ya', that blonde 12" combo is fine. I would love to do this too SRVWANNAB. My problem is that I've tried other speakers, and the tone gets thin over the stock speaker. Louder, but thin. In another post you say you're running it through a separate 12" cab. Is the tone preserved? Really, with all the bass harmonics? If so, a SCXD in a grab-and-go 12" combo is just to drool over. I have an Eminence Swamp Thang that's callin' my name in the garage for bolting in to that blonde cab.

And no, you are not the only one who doesn't understand why this doesn't have a 12" in the box to start with. Though, that 10" is toneful, I have to admit.


Hey "Skynard," (your user name reminds me of LS) , I knew you were out there- thanks for realizing that I wasn't just complaining and that I was speaking to a real need. I guess it's not fair for me to expect everybody to understand what most SCXD owners have given a lot of thought to- so I'll try not to, but I know you know exactly what I'm talking about and I think that most everybody who owns of these does as well. We just want a 1x12 cabinet.

As far as Fender goes- I know they're constantly conducting surveys and using the data they collect to help direct future marketing strategies, but I don't think they realize just how many XD owners almost decided against buying this amp just because of the 10" speaker and how many others actually ended up taking it back for the same reason without ever taking advantage of the speaker out connection in back. Of course, I haven’t taken any surveys of my own, but this is a real need and something that I’ve come across all over the net forums and so I know I’m not alone.

I’m not one of those people who think the stock speaker is junk either. In fact, I actually think it responds very well to the subtleties of pick attack and it also responds very well to the uniqueness of each voice- so maybe there is something to the "special" nature of the speaker and maybe other speakers won’t do as good of a job- but maybe some will. I guess the only way to tell is to get a bunch of speakers and try them out.

The only problem for me with the stock speaker (IM0)-

1. The amp/speaker was too trebly.
2. The 1x10 sounds too boxy/small.

Before I got the cab the amp and speaker sounded kind of harsh on some of the voices and so I had to turn the treble way down whenever I turned the volume up- if I turned the treble way down it sounded fine, but that really diminishes the ability to “cut through” (as they say) and some voices need a good dose of treble. Getting the cab with bigger speakers totally solved that problem and now I can crank the treble if I want to.

The cab also sounds much BIGGER, not just louder. Somebody said that it makes the sound fill the room even at lower volumes- and I’d say that’s a good description. The sound fills the room and surrounds you and even when the volume is turned down low it still sounds bigger and I much prefer that to the sound coming from inside of that box.

My cab is just a Fender GE412 that I got very cheap off Craiglist basically just because it was 8ohm and I didn’t want to wait any longer, but I would not recommend this cab to anybody- there are much better cabs out there for the money- but beggars can’t be choosers.

All I can say is if my amp sounds this good with a junky used Fender 412, it must really sound good with a high quality 112 or 212 cab with really good sounding speakers. So I'm sure your eminence will sound decent to stellar depending on the quality of the box you put it in.

I don't recommend that you have a cab made without running some tests first to see what you think about your amp with bigger speakers and a cab if you like the stock one that much. Maybe you can plug in your speaker and see how it sounds- but it won’t sound that good unless it’s in a cab.

Maybe you can go to your local music store and tell them that you're interested purchasing an extension cab for your XD and maybe they can set you up and let you try some out. I know that's easier said than done at some stores, but that would really be a great way to find out. Don’t be surprised if you end up buying one.

The only thing holding me back on getting a blonde tolex 1x12 version like Tonehound is the 5 year warranty (that’s a long time to go without any problems) and the fact that my current set up sounds pretty damn good anyway- but I'm definitely thinking it over.

BTW: Thanks for the tip on the buzz thing- I'll give it a shot next time around.


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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:19 am
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I built a new 1x12 cabinet for my SCXD this weekend. Man what a difference! this amp no longer feels like a practice amp. I used a fender speaker I had lying around from blues junior and the amp sounds fuller, and less boxy for sure.

As far as the warranty goes, I wouldn't worry too much about that. Your not boiding the warranty by taking the chassis out and putting it in another cabinet. Just keep the origian lcabinet and if you ever needs service, pop the 4 screws holding the chassis out and put it back in the original. For relevant law on the warranty, check this link out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act

The relevant section:

"Warrantors cannot require that only branded parts be used with the product in order to retain the warranty.[2] This is commonly referred to as the "tie-in sales" provisions[3], and is frequently mentioned in the context of third-party computer parts, such as memory and hard drives."

Furthermore the only way they can void your warranty is they would have to prove that the 3rd party cabinet caused the problem. Much like a car manufacturer can't require you to to use only their wheels on your car.


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Post subject: Re: 1x12 Cabinet
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:13 pm
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bluekanoodle wrote:
I built a new 1x12 cabinet for my SCXD this weekend. Man what a difference! this amp no longer feels like a practice amp. I used a fender speaker I had lying around from blues junior and the amp sounds fuller, and less boxy for sure.

As far as the warranty goes, I wouldn't worry too much about that. Your not boiding the warranty by taking the chassis out and putting it in another cabinet. Just keep the origian lcabinet and if you ever needs service, pop the 4 screws holding the chassis out and put it back in the original. For relevant law on the warranty, check this link out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act

The relevant section:

"Warrantors cannot require that only branded parts be used with the product in order to retain the warranty.[2] This is commonly referred to as the "tie-in sales" provisions[3], and is frequently mentioned in the context of third-party computer parts, such as memory and hard drives."

Furthermore the only way they can void your warranty is they would have to prove that the 3rd party cabinet caused the problem. Much like a car manufacturer can't require you to to use only their wheels on your car.


I think it's cool that you built your own cab- I bet it sounds great. And thanks for the link to that warranty act- that's useful info.

I still have to wonder, though, if building your own cab is covered under this section of the act- as I think it may be a loose interpretation of using non branded parts.

Also, I wonder if the Warrantor (Fender in this case) may still require that they (or a qualified service center) and not the consumer are the ones who do the labor or make changes to the product even if they use other parts.

I would be curious to hear if anybody knows the official Fender position on changing to a custom cab and voiding (or not voiding) the warranty. My guess is it's probably okay to do under qualified service center conditions.

But I may be wrong. . .


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