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Post subject: What is the best Fender amp ever built to play blues?
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:18 am
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Hi Guys,
I would like to know what is the best Fender amp I would need to buy to get the best bluesy / warm tone I can get playing my strat?

I plug my guitar so far in a mesa boogie F30. I love the sounds of it but I would like to find a more authentic sound...

Thank you for your advices!

Raphael


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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:18 am
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What's authentic? I know Blues musicians who use Silvertone Twin 12's, Valcos, Dano's as well as Fender Vibrolux Reverbs, Princeton's, Deluxe Reverbs, Champs, Twins, and Bassmans as well as tons of boutique amps.

Whatever You want to hear is authentic. For myself, anything with tubes in it works for me. Nothing wrong with a Mesa. :D


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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:12 am
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Every one of us hears them all a little differently. Best advice I can give is to go out and play a bunch until you find the amp you feel suits what you are looking for.

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Yep, and have fun doing it. :D


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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:09 am
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I generally agree with what the other guys are saying. But, you're looking for an answer - so here's your answer.

Get the best Fender TUBE amp your budget will permit. Get an older style with little or no "bells and whistles". All your dollars should go toward tubes, speakers and wood cabinet. Except for reverb, all your effects should come from boxes.

I play blues thru a Hot Rod Deville 4x10 because that's the best I can afford. My strat sounds great thru that amp.

The rest is up to you. Buddy Guy could play thru a $50 amp and make your brains fall out!


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I agree with peterm above. Some of your decisions will be influenced by what guitar you play and where and how loud you're going to be playing it of course. I like the 'less is more' ideal of the Blues and Hot Rod series. Plug in and play. Use a nice overdrive pedal if you like.


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I'm just going to throw an amp in the mix. I like the 57 Twin!


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Yeah, who doesn't? Just one thing ... $$$$£££!!!


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Or a Tweed Deluxe 5e3. :D


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Hi all,

thx for all comments so far!!
I realised how "stupid" was the way I wrote my question...
in fact it's not easy to correctly write it.
I have 2 strats custom shop 60' relic and custom shop masterbuilt 66 Greg Fessler. When I plug those axes in my F30 I like the sounds. But still I found the amp is still not "round" enough compared to the sound I can hear when listening to SRV, John Mayer for example, or even Buddy Guy.
Off course their mastering of techniques and feeling bring a lot to the sounds and I would be very happy if I can reach one day half of this.
I guess you're right I have to continue testing various amps 'till I find the ONE!
I've played once on a twin 57 and I found it brilliant!!

Do you think it is worse plugging a good pedal to get even more closer to the "ultimate bluesy sound" (which is to me round, can be deeply crunched or soft)? What kind of pedal do you use for that?

Cheers


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I'm not trying to do a Fender ad here, but SRV and Buddy are Fender amp guys (for the most part).

I'm no expert on this stuff But I have to tell you that the biggest change I made in the tone of my Strat (Amer. Deluxe, ash body) was to beef up the guage of my strings and switch my pick to a Dunlap Jazz III, black version.

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To be authentic keep it simple. The blues greats didn't give a damn about all this stuff. They never got the endorsement deals the rock stars got. Your favorite rock star uses particular gear because he's being paid. They're like pro golfers!

Reverb, Tube Screamer, wah pedal. That pedal that says Blues whatever on it is for players with a modern solid state amp. Since you have 2 custom shop strats I assume you can afford a top of the line tube amp.

You're on the right track - test them all. Good luck.


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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:40 am
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Everyone has their favorites, of course, but consider this:

Most blues players like an tube amp cranked up high enough to distort, and they want it to clean up when you pick lighter or turn the guitar's volume down. So it makes sense to choose the right size amp for the application. I have always owned at least three sizes:

(some variety of a) Champ or Princeton for home/recording

(some variety of a) Deluxe for band practice, small/medium gigs

(some variety of a) Twin, Super, or Bassman for large gigs

etc. etc. etc.

Enjoy!

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peterm@rcn.com wrote:
I'm no expert on this stuff But I have to tell you that the biggest change I made in the tone of my Strat (Amer. Deluxe, ash body) was to beef up the guage of my strings and switch my pick to a Dunlap Jazz III, black version.


I agree. I switched to .12's (because I couldn't find any .13's) and started picking with the pick upside down and there is a huge difference between that and using .10's and picking the right way. The trouble with strings so heavy is that it can be hard to bend notes when your guitar has medium jumbo (or vintage) frets. It's not impossible, because I can still bend notes, but it's harder. And refretting is expensive, and might detract from the value of custom shop guitars.

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If you use a tube amp replace the 12AX7 in V-1 with a 5751. The 5751 is nicknamed the blues tube. SRV used them in his amps.

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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:23 pm
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silvergor wrote:
Hi all,

thx for all comments so far!!
I realised how "stupid" was the way I wrote my question...
in fact it's not easy to correctly write it.
I have 2 strats custom shop 60' relic and custom shop masterbuilt 66 Greg Fessler. When I plug those axes in my F30 I like the sounds. But still I found the amp is still not "round" enough compared to the sound I can hear when listening to SRV, John Mayer for example, or even Buddy Guy.
Off course their mastering of techniques and feeling bring a lot to the sounds and I would be very happy if I can reach one day half of this.
I guess you're right I have to continue testing various amps 'till I find the ONE!
I've played once on a twin 57 and I found it brilliant!!

Do you think it is worse plugging a good pedal to get even more closer to the "ultimate bluesy sound" (which is to me round, can be deeply crunched or soft)? What kind of pedal do you use for that?

Cheers


If its those guys (especially SRV) you're after, ONE amp probably won't even come close. A few years after his death I read an article in GuitarWorld about SRVs studio setup for his In Step album. He used basically a whole "wall" of amps, not all of them Fender, all mic'd and mixed differently.

A lot of these guys also change their gear and setup with different albums and tours which makes it even harder for us mere mortals to try and emulate their sound.

But like all the other guys said, try as many as you can and have fun in the process.


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