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I asked the exact same question on TGP. Here is a link to the thread:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... p?t=465184


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I have had my HRDlx for 5 years and this is my story. About the time the warranty went out I had to put it in the shop. They resoldered the whole board. It has worked perfect ever since. It according to the tech who did the job is because of the factory soldering also it was done in Mexico. The foot pedal is trash and that is where some of the channel switching was coming from. So I don't use it I use my footpedals and leave the amp setting in one place. I use this amp 3 0r more times a week and usually in at least 1 show a week (I use it in rehersals). I have also started using a Vamp 1/2 stack. Ceck our site at myspace/sid53 You will also here me paying lead through a 59 bassman.


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I disagree on the Blues Deluxe and Hot Rod Deluxe using the same circuit.
Looking at both schematics side by side, they're totally different. There are similar aspects, as in most Fender circuits, but a totally different animal.


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And the verdict is ...?

All the reviews I've seen on other forums suggest it's the Blues Deluxe you can't rely on - cutting out at volume, channel switch problems ...

My Hot Rod has been totally faithful (nearly) in 8 years since I had it. I was wondering if I should swap it for a BDL as I 'm having back problems and would appreciate the lighter weight.


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Both amps are using the same HotRod design circuit.

One main difference is the HDR uses both halves of the V2 preamp tube, I think it comes in use on the "More Drive" channel.
The Blues Deluxe only uses 1 triode in the V2 preamp tube.

Not sure what other differences there might be :)
Do you know if there is some kind of mod you could do on a Blues Deluxe to get it to use both halves of the V2 preamp tube? I love my Blues Deluxe, but sometimes I just wanna have a bit of a grittier tone when I'm using my OCD stompbox.


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63supro wrote:
I saw one of the new orange and black HRDlx in person today at Sam Ash. The only difference is the cab, knobs and speaker. Oh, I forgot it retails for close to 1200 bucks.

Those are the masterbuilt or made in the custom shop I believe, hence the high price. I would assume the quality would generally be better than the mexico made ones.


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Where did you get that information? I 'm sure they're made in Mexico too. They cost more because the cabinet isn't stock. I finally got to play it and it's not much different than the one I own now. They don't build the HDRlx in the Custom Shop and from the looks of the quality of the paint job and assembly, no Master built it either.


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63supro wrote:
Where did you get that information? I 'm sure they're made in Mexico too. They cost more because the cabinet isn't stock. I finally got to play it and it's not much different than the one I own now. They don't build the HDRlx in the Custom Shop and from the looks of the quality of the paint job and assembly, no Master built it either.
Maybe senor masterbuilder? :lol: Btw Supro, i just purchased a used 59 Bassman RI and i am lacquering the cabinet and i took it apart and the quality is so much better than my Blue Deluxe.The tubes arent munted on a circuit board and it seems as though the quality is soo much better internally.


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Keep in mind some people change the tubes to large bottle tubes like the KT66. They have to remove the retainers when they do. It is absolutely necessary to replace the screws back into the mounting holes.This supports the socket and keeps it from flexing the board whenever you change a power tube. How many complaints are from not replacing those screws back where they belong. The screws hold the sockets steady. If you really look at it there are probably other problems caused by incorrect modifications and not the amp design and build.
I will add that I have only had my HR DLX for a month and I hope I will enjoy it for years. I can't compare it to some of the older Fenders without circuit boards as I have never owned one and only played one once or twice and that was years ago.
I do not gig with mine. It is most always going to be used for my own enjoyment and some imprompt jam sessions.

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I played the HRD and the BD side by side at GC and thought that they were pretty close in sound, but that the HRD was a little bit brighter, and the BD was warmer. Also, I thought that the BD took pedals better (tube screamer). I ended up buying the BD. However, I returned it soon after; it's too loud for my uses, the reverb sucks, and it didn't have "the sound." I ended up walking away with a DRRI. Much better sound, useable volume, and the best reverb I've ever heard.

Fender amps are a step above the rest, and both the HRD and the BD are amazing amps, but every time I plug my strat into my deluxe I realize that that's how a strat is supposed to sound.


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I played the HRD and the BD side by side at GC and thought that they were pretty close in sound, but that the HRD was a little bit brighter, and the BD was warmer. Also, I thought that the BD took pedals better (tube screamer). I ended up buying the BD. However, I returned it soon after; it's too loud for my uses, the reverb sucks, and it didn't have "the sound." I ended up walking away with a DRRI. Much better sound, useable volume, and the best reverb I've ever heard.

Fender amps are a step above the rest, and both the HRD and the BD are amazing amps, but every time I plug my strat into my deluxe I realize that that's how a strat is supposed to sound.
I never really liked the scooped mids of the blackface but instead prefer the tweed sound that fender offers.To my ears the BDRI has a more tweed flavoring,but it does the clean sound pretty good.To me the Bassman has the sound i am looking for,but with a volume box the BD is quite usable.Without one you might be wrestling with the volume knob all night.


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63supro wrote:
Where did you get that information? I 'm sure they're made in Mexico too. They cost more because the cabinet isn't stock. I finally got to play it and it's not much different than the one I own now. They don't build the HDRlx in the Custom Shop and from the looks of the quality of the paint job and assembly, no Master built it either.
Maybe senor masterbuilder? :lol: Btw Supro, i just purchased a used 59 Bassman RI and i am lacquering the cabinet and i took it apart and the quality is so much better than my Blue Deluxe.The tubes arent munted on a circuit board and it seems as though the quality is soo much better internally.

Congrats budglo!
I borrow my friends 59 Bassman from tine to time. His RI is around 15 years old and real reliable. The construction difference between the Bassman and HRDlx or Blues Deluxe are night and day. Tone wise there is no comparison. You really do get what you pay for.
Have fun with the amp.


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63supro wrote:
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Where did you get that information? I 'm sure they're made in Mexico too. They cost more because the cabinet isn't stock. I finally got to play it and it's not much different than the one I own now. They don't build the HDRlx in the Custom Shop and from the looks of the quality of the paint job and assembly, no Master built it either.
Maybe senor masterbuilder? :lol: Btw Supro, i just purchased a used 59 Bassman RI and i am lacquering the cabinet and i took it apart and the quality is so much better than my Blue Deluxe.The tubes arent munted on a circuit board and it seems as though the quality is soo much better internally.

Congrats budglo!
I borrow my friends 59 Bassman from tine to time. His RI is around 15 years old and real reliable. The construction difference between the Bassman and HRDlx or Blues Deluxe are night and day. Tone wise there is no comparison. You really do get what you pay for.
Have fun with the amp.
I agree,mine is from 96 .I had the privlege of taking it apart to lacquer the cabinet and it is built like a tank.Its in another realm as far as tone goes.


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I have a blues deville, and a t-rex mudhoney overdrive pedal. killer sound.
the main difference between those two amps is the watts i think.
hotrod deville is 40W and the blues deville is 60W, so the blues has more "power". great for gigs.


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