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Post subject: Best solid state amp for classic fender tone!
Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:22 pm
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Looking for a deluxe reverb character in a solid state if there is such a beast.
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You can try the Boss Deluxe Reverb pedal. You won't get a "classic" Fender sound because the classic tone was created with tube amps. Modeling amps are getting better, but not really there yet.


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Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:42 pm
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was looking to keep it simple, and minimize pedals.
own a tech 21, and was looking for something similar from fender.
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Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:27 pm
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Thanks, i did not realize the old princeton was solid state.
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There are several different "Princeton" varieties - you need to check out the specs.

This is a tube amp:
http://www.guitarcenter.com/Fender-Vint ... 1401435.gc

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If you can find a used Cyber Deluxe, you might want to check it out. It has a Deluxe Reverb model that I use a lot. The amp also offers some other nice amp options that you may find useful.


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Post subject: Re: Best solid state amp for classic fender tone!
Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:47 pm
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Sharon Slickis wrote:
Looking for a deluxe reverb character in a solid state if there is such a beast.
Sharon Slickis


You didn't state a cost range. The amp below cost more than those mentioned so far, but is worth what it costs.

The best I've found that fits your above criteria is the Cyber Twin SE, which I have one of. I also have a DRRI to compare with it, so I know the CT SE will do the the job of getting that sound.

It does have two 12AX7 pre-amp tubes, which are used in some of the 50 amps that are built into it. Other than those two tubes, the rest could be called "solid state". And it IS NOT a modeling amp. It's a different technology that rewires itself internally to the amp you call up, or an amp you make to your preferences, instead of the "snapshot" technology the modeling amps use. It sounds like a "real" amp - because it IS a real amp.

This one is so versatile, and has so much, that a person needs to use it for months to begin to see it's potential, and do it justice. Also the Celestion speakers that are in it need some time to break in and loosen up a bit.

It will do bedroom sound level playing very nicely. And it also has a lot of punch for gigs, if you need that too. The power amps are 2 x 65 watt stereo output, or 130 watts total. But still retains the built in ability to put out a high quality sound at the really low levels for practice at home. A lot of amps can't do that.

Yeah, I know it's expensive - I had to pay the price to get mine. And, I'm still glad I went ahead an bit the bullet and bought it. In fact, I like it even better now than when I first got it. It is one item that I would say is worth every penny I paid for it.

Getting the sound you like means so much to your creativity.

Whatever you decide to go with - Good Luck!

edited to add:
Here's a link to Fenders video about the original CT. The CT SE is a second edition with all updates and upgrades, plus more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz9vbi57xOg


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The one I own is the Fender Jazzmaster Ultralight: sounds like a Super Reverb, weighs a total of 25.6 lb, has 250 watts RMS and a single 12.

I A/Bed mine against a friend's 11-67 Super, and the only place where the old tube monster was better was in the reverb sound. But it weighs over 60 lb, and I don't want to carry that much weight around any more.

Luckily I was able to trade in a bunch of older -- heavier -- gear on mine, and only had to come up with a couple of hundred cash. Street price is $1070 for the head and cabinet.

It comes with a gig bag for the head that also has spaces for the included three-button footswitch (channel switching and FX on/off for each channel) and cables for the speaker and foot pedal and a removable IEE AC cord. The head has metal feet that nest in magnetic sockets on the speaker cab so there's no problem using a tilt-back stand. The clean channel is awesome and the drive channel is the best by far that I've ever played through in a solid-state amp. Reverb's not as good as the real tube-powered deal, but there is a choice oif chorus/reverb/delay on each channel.

I also have a Hot Rod Blues Jr NOS (with a Ruby Reverb and Weber Beam Blocker) that sounds killer, BUT you have to crank it up to get to the sweet spot. The JM sounds fine at low levels and, with 250 watts, it'll go loud too.

My other amps have their place, but this little guy is my go-to device for guitar (Gibson Les Paul Deluxe and ES-335), especially when -- like tomorrow night -- when I'll be playing in a small church and the BJ has to be turned up too loud for the venue.

One drawback is that they are hard to find: the one the local Fender dealer ordered for me was the first one seen in these parts, but the Harmony Central reviews were so positive I had to check one out in person. In the event, it was love at first listen.

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