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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:46 am
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Here's one from my CT 1st edition that's semi-clean & on the fat side. Of course this can be duplicated on the SE.
Hit a string & immediately give it a quick full step bend to hear a little bit of that "whatchamacallit".


Parameters for Cyber-Twin Preset: Fat Boy FLAM

Tone Stack Type: Blackface
Tone Stack Loc: Pre-Distortion
Drive Circuitry: Blackface Tube 3
Reverb Type: Blackface Reverb
Reverb Input: 6.5
Reverb Tone: 6.5
Reverb Time: 4.5
Reverb Diffusion: 7.5
Timbre: Bright & Light
Line/Spkr Phase: Reverse Polarity
Compressor: Low
NoiseGate Depth: 6.9
NoiseGate Thresh: Low
Trim: Keep trim out of the red
Expression Pedal: Gain
Cont Controller: Master Volume
Reverb/FX Bypass: FX Output Only
Gain: 6.3
Volume: 8.0
Treble: 8.0
Middle: 10.0
Bass: 5.0
Presence: 2.1
Reverb: 3

Effects: Stereo Flam Delay
Delay Out Level: 6.6
Delay Time: 100 ms
Delay Feedback: 1.0
Delay Brightness: 8.6
Delay Stereo: 10.0
Delay Time Change: Step


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Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 10:45 am
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I wish you had in 'upload' format, I could use Cyber Commander
http://www.generalcybersystems.com/GCSWebSite/index.php
and store it direct into my CT :) .

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When you try it, re-post it in your favorite format.
Not everyone uses PC'swith their CTs


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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 7:02 am
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Not everyone uses PC'swith their CTs


Well they should! Mainly because software like the CCT allows one to 'back-up' their Player's Club presets. I have about 35 custom presets, and if anything happened to my CT, or if I brought a CT-SE, I could painlessly input all my custom presets in a matter of minutes.

I don't have my CT here at home, it's at our recording space. I'm just about finish recording the guitar parts for our second CD 'The Cold Backhand of Love'.

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Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:16 am
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Agreed, Everyone should backup their presets. I always backup mine.

The software I use is certainly NOT as good as as the Cyber Commander package from General Cyber Systems. Also, I cannot post in a format compatible with what you have.
CyberLab that I use never made it to the retail market because it is clunky, the writer never fixed it, & never tried to sell it. But it does what I need, which is backup presets, move em around, create .syx files etc.

Anyone that currently cannot backup their presets should certainly buy the Cyber Commander package from general Cyber Systems. It is a no brainer.

For now, take 5 minutes & turn a few knobs.

Good Luck with your new CD


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LesK wrote:
When you try it, re-post it in your favorite format.
Not everyone uses PC'swith their CTs


Not sure what the format issue is, but I loaded Fat Boy FLAM in my cyber commander and will post your work here as it was listed in my Cyber Twin SE.

1 "Fat Boy FLAM " =Preset Name ;
2 "Blackface" =Tone Stack ;
3 "Pre-Distortion" =Tone Position ;
4 "Reverse Polarity" =Speaker Phase ;
5 "Blackface Tube 3" =Drive Circuitry ;
6 "Stereo Flam Delay" =Effect Type ;
7 "Blackface Reverb" =Reverb Type ;
8 "FX Output Only" =Reverb Bypass ;
9 "Bright & Light" =Timbre Type ;
10 "Low" =Compressor Type ;
11 "Low" =Noise Gate Type ;
12 6.3 =Gain Value ;
13 8.0 =Volume Value ;
14 8.0 =Treble Value ;
15 10.0 =Middle Value ;
16 5.0 =Bass Value ;
17 2.1 =Presence Value ;
18 3.0 =Reverb Value ;
19 6.61 =Delay Out Level ;
20 100 =Delay Time (ms) ;
21 1.00 =Delay Feedback ;
22 8.62 =Delay Brightness ;
23 "10.0" =Delay Stereo ;
24 STEP =Dly/Time Change ;
25 6.51 =Reverb Input ;
26 6.51 =Reverb Tone ;
27 4.53 =Reverb Time ;
28 7.53 =Reverb Diffusion ;
29 6.93 =Noise Gate Depth ;
30 ON =Noise Gate ;
31 "Gain" =Expression Pedal ;
32 "Master Volume" =Cont. Controller ;


Thanks for the info. I think all of your parameters were input correctly.
Hope this helps.

Randy


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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 2:55 pm
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Hi CyberMac,

The file format is a Cyber Commander file format. The file format is described in the Cyber Commander manuals (section 9.2). The manuals can be obtained from:
http://www.generalcybersystems.com/GCSW ... ources.php

Please note Cyber Commander does not tolerate file format differences well. The reason is that Cyber Commander assumes that another Cyber Commander software created the text file. If you create the text file with Notepad, there's no guarantee Cyber Commander will read it. Cyber Commander will screen for errors, if it detects errors, it will dump the file, it will not attempt to fix it.

Cyber Commander users: you can trade the binary single presets and complete Player's Lounges, but being binary files, you cannot display their contents on a forum like this one.

The text file creation and reading-in, was provided so that Cyber Commander users can easily post and trade their single presets with everyone else. The text file captures all 32 parameters that make up a single preset.

Ciao,
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Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:21 pm
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Johnny:

Thanks for the info. I just added the settings in Cyber Commander and it worked for me. Thanks again for providing the support and a great product.

Randy


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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:01 am
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Hey all.

Got to talkin' Cyber Twins and hi-gain tone on TGP the other day...a guy wanted a patch to do Spawn's Silverchair (that's a song). Naturally, the trouble is that Cyber Twins 1.x aren't known for doing hi-gain very well, esp the down-tuned variety. However, after listening to the track, a solution ocurred to me, so I gave CyberThump another whirl. If you get bored and got a wild hair, try it, think about it, and post your improvements.

Anyhoo, here's my post with the patch:

**********

Interesting clip--I've been studying with a nu-metal guy lately, and these sorts of hi-gain tones intrigue me.

IMHO, I'm hearing a fairly broad freq response for a guitar amp, with the low end being tight and focussed, and most of the grunt coming from the mids, not the lows. Additionally, also IMHO, hi-gain dirt isn't as dirty as most people make it. In my book, the sound of this clip involves heavy intermodulation distortion from the tube harmonics, and gets less of its dirt from actual clipping. (As we think of clipping. Harmonics actually come from an early form of clipping most of us don't think of as "dirt." BTW, there's an underlying oscillation that reminds me a ton of a BF Princeton dimed.) Finally, despite the torn-up sound, there's a great deal of detail and enunciation of the percussive mutes, the norm for down-tuned metal. Hm...

So, I started with a PAF-style vintage-(low/med)-output bridge HB on my JEM, knobs wide open. I used the most harmonically rich circuit the CT has on tap, the Blackface 3 at high gain. This circuit still runs fairly clean even at those settings compared to a Hot Rod or an HMB, but the intermodulation is thick and idles low like a V8, and the pick harmonics jump at the touch of a pinch. To get those spanky mids you hear on the fills, I used a combination of the huge EQ power of a Modern tone stack (post), and the Razor Edge cab sim to make the amp move air right.

To further enhance the illusion of heavy dirt without tearing up the pick definition, I used a favorite FX feature of the Cyber Twin, the "Ultra Clean + Chorus." The Ultra Clean half really accents the pick attack (as opposed to cranking treble) and gives the amp a distinctly tube-y transient response on the front of the note. The Chorus half helps that V8 motor thing grunt, as well as providing a sense of harmonic combing effect (sort of a really slow trem that morphs freq response on the oscillations) to build in a dramatic impression of heavy drive. A touch of chorus, IMHO, is a big secret to getting clear and driven hi-gain tone while retaining definition and keeping the bees away. Too much and you sound 80's arena, not enough and the tubes don't sound pushed. The Ultra Clean + Chorus thing is tailor made for this.

Soooo...I came up with two patches. The first is tailored for live use, where making the air move in a dramatic way is crucial, and while the tone has to cut, it also needs some extra low to compensate for Fletcher Munson at a hundred feet. (It also accounts for the freq-compensated XLR jack if you go to a board with the amp.) On the second, I was torn between using an HMB 3 section with the gain dialed back, or alternatively the Hot Rod 3, depending on where you want your mids accented for recording direct. My favorite solution was the original patch with an EQ pedal in front of the amp, however.

Incidentally, I ran the combo without using an outboard 2x12. Mine is an old Jensen-loaded Univox and sounds considerably different from yours.

Anyhoo, here's the patch:

Tone Stack: Modern
Tone Location: Post
Drive Section: Blackface 3
Cab Sim: Razor Edge
Polarity: Standard
Compressor: Medium
Noise Gate: High
Threshold: 10

Gain: 8.5
Treble: 6
Mid: 8.7
Bass: 3.7
Presence: 9.0

Volume: Above 4 or 5 at least
Master Volume: Same (The amp strangles below that, esp with hi-gain patches. Very loud.)

FX: Ultra Clean + Chorus
Output Level: 4.1
Rate: .48
Depth: 6.3
Body: 5.1
Brilliance: 6.4 (Bee buzz lives in these last two as well as in the tone stack.)

One mo' thang...if you really truly want more dirt...stick a dirt pedal in front of the amp. The caveat is that it has to be a really organic and transparent pedal to provide just the touch of nasty dirt to push the sound over the top. I used a Humphrey Audio modded Bad Monkey, or a Hump modded Metal Zone, and both provided some really clear and useful color to the sound. That said, I liked the amp naked the best.

Does it "nail" a Soldano? Not IMHO. But in a mix it sems to work pretty well in its own right. YMMV as always, keep us posted.

--Ray

BTW, the dry flinty tone in the opening riffs...I tried reversing polarity on one speaker and bumping the EQ. Not exact, but dramatic. Assigned the polarity flip to a stompswitch on an FCB1010 MIDI controller...makes the change instantly. Cool effect.

***********

Anyhoo, that's the big fat news today. Happy tweakin'!

--Ray


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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:33 am
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...ps...the JEM is down-tuned to D. Much more fun for the chug. The lower the tuning, the more teeth you get.


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Post subject: Clicking sound made by compressor!
Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 12:58 pm
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My Cyber Twin recently started making a motorized clicking sound when the compressor is activated! Has anyone else experienced this and is there a quick fix?
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I have a Cyber twin that I bought new in 2005. Have not used it much as that crazy little G-dec I had picked up at the same time is a very nice fun little amp. Here is it 4 years later and I am just starting to get familiar with the Cyber Twin...Love it so far....

Are the updates available on line?


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Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:33 pm
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Whenever the Cyber Twin goes funny for some unexplained reason, do a factory reset. We have found that some reason, the preset data was either inappropriate or has become corrupted. In either case, the saved data seems to drive the Cyber Twin nuts and you get funny behavior. The factory reset clears the decks and put the cyber twin into a "middle of the road" state. But before you do that, save your player's lounge and midi map.

There are no known on-line amp upgrades for the Cyber Twin. Some interesting presets in this forum and on http://www.generalcybersystems.com/GCSWebSite/Tp.php

ciao,
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Post subject: Any way to do a hard reset?
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:52 am
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johnny stecchino wrote:
Whenever the Cyber Twin goes funny for some unexplained reason, do a factory reset. We have found that some reason, the preset data was either inappropriate or has become corrupted. In either case, the saved data seems to drive the Cyber Twin nuts and you get funny behavior. The factory reset clears the decks and put the cyber twin into a "middle of the road" state. But before you do that, save your player's lounge and midi map.

There are no known on-line amp upgrades for the Cyber Twin. Some interesting presets in this forum and on http://www.generalcybersystems.com/GCSWebSite/Tp.php

ciao,
johnny.


Just moved a few weeks ago and when I plugged my Cyber Twin SE in and fired it up, it was acting a little funny. None of the knobs were doing their motorized thing and the screen was acting up. I changed presets a few times and it seemed to calm down and function normally, so I didn't think too much of it.
The next time I used it, it was possessed once again, but I have been unable to get it to behave at all. I found this post and tried to do a factory reset, but have been unable because random parameters (volume, treble, bass, pan, chorus, etc.) pop up on the screen and I have but a fraction of a second to even see what is going on in the utility menu before some parameter pops up and randomly varies.
Is there any way to do a "hardware" reset of the SE? On some things all you have to do is remove a little battery or hold down a reset switch, but I have found no indication of either on the SE.
Any suggestions?


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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 7:36 pm
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Just went through the Fender schematics, no visible "reset" procedure. There are some field test modes, but none to reset the amp.

The only hint of extra command modes are in the schematic "field test modes". If there are other test modes, or resets, I do not know what they are. I hope that one day, Fender tells us these things.

From what i can tell, either your hardware has gone funny or the software has! From what you have described, no idea which, or how to "reset" the amp.

Wish you very good luck, please tell us if you find a solution,

Ciao,
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