Epluribus, welcome to the club.
I've only had a chance to try out the first "bluesbreaker" setting. You did an awesome job, it really cleaned up the sound.
What do you use for the "trim" and "master volume" setting?
Doubt if we'll hear from you again since this was you only post. But if you happen to ever see this, thanks and I'd wish you'd post more of your settings.

Houston, when you gonna post that CyberTwin video we're waiting for?

Everybody else, thanks for all the great settings, keep 'em coming.

Here's a preset for you to try out.
It's on the clean side with a bit of fat on it; just clean enough so that you can always hear the subtle differences between pickup selections.

Cyber-Twin Preset Name: Up Front:

Tone Stack Type: Blackface
Tone Stack Loc: Pre-distortion
Drive Circuitry: Blackface Tube 2
Reverb Type: Fender Reverb
Reverb Dwell: 9.0
Reverb Tone: 10
Reverb Time: 7.6
Reverb Diffusion: 4.0
Timbre: Bright & Light
Line/Spkr Phase: Standard
Compressor: Low
NoiseGate Depth: 5.0 (Noise gate is tirned OFF)
NoiseGate Thresh: Low
Expression Pedal: Gain
Cont Controller: Master Volume
Reverb/FX Bypass: FX Output Only
Gain: 6.5
Volume: 8.2
Treble: 6.0
Middle: 4.0
Bass: 6.0
Presence: 5.8
Reverb: 1.9
Effects: Mono Delay
Delay Out Level: 5.7
Delay Time: 30 ms
Delay Feedback: 1.0
Delay Brightness: 6.2
Delay In Level: 6.9
Delay Time Change: Ramp

Epluribus that last one "Blues Breaker" is a very usable setting and it sounded great with my Tele, I'll plug in the Strat when I get some time too.

This thread should be the most used on this forum, we have more options on out CT's than any other Fender product.

It is a great tool and a lot of fun too.

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Keepn' the Blues Alive

2004 50th Ann. Limited edition AMSE Stratocaster
2017 50's Baja Telecaster BSB

1968 Bandmaster with 2X12 cab C-rex speakers
VHT Special 6 Ultra combo

Visual Sound Route 66
Cmatmods Signa Drive

Bondsman,

I fooled around with the setting I posted earlier and... well this happened.
It is my Tokai Goldstar strat throughout, man gotta love this guitar.

I named it after listening to it.

btw: it is no blues and yep it is a ballad.
Lets just say it is ~nine months until I turn 50.

http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6982709

Half Blind lefty
Sounded great !!!

These CT's are fun !!!!!!

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Keepn' the Blues Alive

2004 50th Ann. Limited edition AMSE Stratocaster
2017 50's Baja Telecaster BSB

1968 Bandmaster with 2X12 cab C-rex speakers
VHT Special 6 Ultra combo

Visual Sound Route 66
Cmatmods Signa Drive

Is it my imagination or is the CT pretty useless as an amp? Meaning it doesn't sound good with the standard settings, but once you tweak the settings OMFG.

Let me explain.
The Amp Collection has 49 amps. When I switch between all of them, there are only about 5 which sound good as is. I replaced the tubes and now 10 sound good as is. I was hoping the "Blues Combo" amp sounded good, it doesn't, not until the guy posted the settings for the "bluesbreaker".

I think I'm going to have to tweak all the amp settings for the different amps to sound good.

I've noticed if I take off the compressor (or lower it) and turn down the gain, the amp is much more usable.

What are your instant "I need to do this" to make the amp sound good?

The Cyber Twin is a fantastic amp, the catch is that you have to work with it a bit and find the tones you are looking for. The tones are definitely in there, and a lot more versatile and better sounding than most tube amps, IMHO.

I my case, i bought the amp, fiddled with it for a year, didn't get anywhere, and realized that i really need a software to crack open everything the CT had to offer. Over two years of sweat, tons of money, now have a software that opens up the entire CT. With the software, i can get what i want very quickly and never again have to buy pedals, gizmos, and ton of useless crap. The CT does it all - it especially does "tube" amps better than tube amps, IMHO. The secret is turning down the Gain knob and then the tones start coming out. After, start looking.

In case you are interested in the software, it's Cyber Commander (apologize for the shameless plug).

Ciao,
John.

Cool, 'preciate the kudo man. As for trim, mine blinks red pretty lightly compared to most folks I suspect--I get cleaner attack and less transient spiking that way.

As for MV, my CT doesn't seem to come alive till the MV gets above at least 4--below that the power amp sounds choked off and the freq response has some notable dips in it. In addition, I also note that above 4 the volume dynamics have a wider range like a conventional tube amp would, and the speaker begins to soften and add its voice as IMHO it should. 6-8 seems to be the sweet spot, btw. Below 4 the amp-iness seems to go flat and solid-state sounding....lifeless.



Naaah, I was just hideously pokey finding this forum. Actually, I've really missed having an active CT user community--this is such a complex little amp if you really plumb the depths. The good news is that it rewards that exploration so well. And I got mine very early on.



I'll do that.

I'm currently working on a set of comparative patches to evaluate the inherent differences in drive section numbers, both within type and across type. As part of the experiment, I'm also doing two or three patches for each drive selection that I think plays to its particular strengths.

Ultimately, the point is to ask the question "What is a Cyber Twin in its own right?" I came up with the Bluesbreaker patches by exploring that question--the CT has a ton of that sort of Bluesbreaker presence and mojo without trying to be somebody else's amp. The 'Breaker sound, conversely, really plays into the stout and throaty in-your-face 2x12 open-back character that the CT has. AAMOF, the CT's power amp, speaker, and cab have a very distinct personality that you just can't miss regardless of the patch. So rather than "nail" something else, I just try to figure out what the CT "wants to be." Pretty wicked little amp when you look at it that way.

Anyhoo, really nice to be here and see this place so active. Thanks for the warm welcome Spyderman.

--Ray

Hey BB.

Try your Ultra-Clean + Chorus in the FX menu. I discovered it trying to get that gorgeous little chiming harmonic the EL84 in my Kalamazoo Model II does with a Strat. (It's in my Kzoo II patch, btw) In the end, it didn't "nail" the EL84, but I found tons of very cool uses for it anyway, sort of like what you want. If you try it, notice how it emphasizes the pick attack on your strings, particularly G, B, and hi E. Also seems to move air a touch better at the attack, esp on the tight lows when you don't want the boom the volume or bass knobs give you. I use a touch of UC+C on almost all my clean tube amp settings. Easy on the ears, very tube-punchy and present.

The 4x10...hm. If you're not going DI to PA, I discovered some time ago that the CT basically has several variants of 2x12 open-back cab sound, and that trying to fight it is somewhat futile and you get into turf that makes the amp sound artificial. I have a hunch a big hunk of Cyber-gripes are down to this. I can diddle polarity/EQ all day to build a Princeton and my CT still has that CT personality underneath the Prin veneer.

Now if I run my speaker-out into my Prin-sized Weber Alnico 1x10-loaded homebrew, it's like Scotty beamed a Princeton down to my living room. So real and "there" it's downright eerie. Better yet, since you're not bending the EQ all out of shape trying to make the cab something it isn't, suddenly you've freed up some very powerful tone controls (since they're not all twisted.) Does the same thing with a Jensen-loaded 2x12 closed-back, a 1x12 Deluxe Reverb II combo, and a Blue Dog 2x10 junkyard mutt that I cobbled together. IOW, I'm a huge fan of speaker-out/in jacks on all my gear so I can mix and match all my cabs, but a setup like that puts a CT on steroids! Count your ohms and watch the power handling, but these are cheap/easy DITY mods and wicked effective.

One mo' thang, however. If you're going DI to a PA, something the CT really shines at, you'll find all that onboard cab-sim technology creates a vivid sense of amps big and small exceedingly well, in many ways better than mic-ing a "real" amp. DI'd, Cyber Amps really become alive and present onstage, whatever the patch.

Er...all IMHO, natch!

--Ray

Hey LesK, nice to see you here. I have a whole bunch of your patches (from a previous life in a forum far away IIRC) in my PatchWizard Library--you've done some really nice work. Gonna have to load up this one and fire up the amp...once I get done typin' here.

--Ray

epluribus - Welcome, I remember form the PatchWizard site. I think I may have a few for your presets in my CT.

You're right the CT opens up when the MV is around 4. I still use my CT at gigs, and now we're recording our second CD 'The Cold Backhand of Love' and I don't have to bring many amps, just my CT .

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Tony Houston

Hey Tony, nice to type at ya again! Figured I'd find you around the web one of these days when the Cyber community found a hospitable new place to land. If this nomad thing keeps up maybe we're all gonna hafta move to Tora Bora.

Nice to hear about the new disc, I really dug the last one. I remember getting a blues patch from you that morphed into about ten different patches such that I've forgotten which one is the original, but it's a very nice collection.

My CT is very much alive and kickin'. Finally stuck speaker-outs in it--stunning results, utterly freaks people out when it does the Princeton thing. Put JJ's in it, but ended up with Sovtek's--I like the slightly microphonic liveliness not to mention the smoother grind than the stock GTs. (Which were a different run from Sovtek, IIRC.) The JJ's were very cool, but a bit too civil. Also stuck Beam Blockers on it after testing the idea with some old CD-ROMs and gaffer's tape. Much smoother for close-in listeners. Finally decided that the CT likes being on the floor as opposed to tilted back or elevated--that Cyber-edge they have really seems to come into its own that way. It also likes my garage better than my little living room, RE: the MV thing.

Anyhoo, good hearing from you, glad to hear the music scene is happenin' like always.

--Ray

Epluribus,

Welcome

Nah, we won't have to move to Bora bora, if we get forced to move again I'll start a dedicated forum for the CT and CT se if I have to.

The CT community will not be defeated


/Hans

epluribus - nice to hear from you
For a while I was thinking that there wasn't much interest in posting presets.
This forum seems to be the only place to go when you want to try someone else's presets. Hopefully people will start posting; I got a few keepers from here. Your feedback will get me to post another, when I create one.
Have fun.......

Johnny Stecchino wrote
[quote]The secret is turning down the Gain knob and then the tones start coming out.

I have to agree.

The subtleties are lost with too much gain. The distortion on this amp. sometimes sounds too harsh.
You only get the subtleties when you lean towards the clean side, bringing you into the ball park when you compare them to an all tube clean.
Digital/solid state gain isn't very creamy. On the other hand there are some nice overdrive sounds on this amp, if you tweak it right.
It sounds like I'm contradicting myself, but if you are fussy & listen closely, you'll probably understand what I'm saying.