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Post subject: Fender Twins in STEREO
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:58 am
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I don't know if any1 else has tried this, but Fender Twins in stereo sound astounding.

I ran them together with a chorus pedal & delay. Add an overdrive & boost and hold on to your hats.

Talk about volume, almost too much of it. I tell you, 2 Twins in stereo would be the ultimate stadium rig!

You can see some pics of my Twin under the gear section of my webpage. I don't have pics of the 2nd one up yet. Most of my recordings are Twins in stereo w/ overdrive pedals for leads. I highly recommend this setup to anyone needing a stereo setup.
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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:50 pm
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Hello Soultostrings,

If I had 2 twins in stereo
the neighbors would
tar and feather me.

Glad you can have fun with yours.

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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 3:26 pm
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I have become the custodian of a Fender amp labeled 'the twin LO-015926'.
A renter moved out and left it and quite a few music items like a dismantled guitar,this amp with a foot box 'thing' (please excuse my lack of comprehension with the music paraphanalia. My son was a sax player). anyone know how, where or at what price we could unload this amp? We keep getting mixed info on it. Any help is MUCH appreciated.


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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:59 am
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Wow! Have imagined that'd be the ultimate, but is probably out of my league for now. However, I'm right there with you in spirit. I've been stereoing my Ric 360 through it's Ric-O-Sound, my Deluxe Reverb RI and my Sons Cube 30X.

Been wanting to do better and quit horking his amp (I also drag his to work on the backshifts) so Monday a new Blues Jr. NOS will arrive. Won't be as easy to take to work, but easier than the DRRI.

Very curious how you 'Stereo'.

The Ric has a second jack that splits the pup outs. I run a 1/4" Monster stereo cable to their Y, w/isolates each than use a pair of standard cables from there, one to each amp.

Have been thinking I'd like to mod my Les Paul, perhaps by using a component or 2 from Rickenbacker to allow the same option. (Then I'd have to call it either Gib-O-Sound or Dave-O-Sound).

Again, am very curious what you do to stereo to your Twin Twins.


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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:32 pm
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dafreeze wrote:
Very curious how you 'Stereo'.


Try a Y-Cord, Splitter, A+B Box or something like a signal processor with dual outs.

Something like this works fine :

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/prod ... D=26018241

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Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 12:55 pm
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Thank's Mike, that's kinda what I'm thinking he's doing, simply splitting the guitars out to 2 amps. Each getting the exact same signal. That's not stereo, but 2 channel mono.

Why I'd really like to hear from him.

Don't think I can do what I'd like with my Les Paul without modifying like I somewhat described above.

With my Ric, using this;

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=330058

plugged into the Ric-O-Sound jack, I'm able to put the bridge pup to one amp and the neck pup to another.

This is the effect I'm getting at and asking about. That's what comes to mind when I think of 'stereo'.


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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:23 pm
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Here is how i do the stereo setup, sorry for the delay in replying.

I run them both in seperate chains, but each amp is connected to a TC Electronics Chorus pedal. The pedal accepts a line in & out as well as stereo in & out. So I run 2 cables into each, so the TC has 4 cables coming out of it to & from both TWIN amps.

I also can do this for a delay pedal, provided the delay pedal has stereo outs. Unfortunately I do not have this option on my favorite echo pedal (MG Music That's Echo pedal) but I do have it on the boss dd-5. It's great for leads to have stereo delay which i used on a lot of the songs.

Hope this helps, let me know if you have anymore questions.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:19 am
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Well, actually now I do. Thank's for offering.

Just received an A/B switcher made by Whirlwind. Idea was to simply switch between either my Deluxe Reverb or Blues Jr. NOS, or more specifically to play through both with my Strat and Les Paul. Have a ball with my 360 and it's Ric-O-Sound. In fact, thought if I liked the switch I might end up buying a couple more.

Dang does the noise level go up though. Pretty unacceptably, especially through the Blues Jr. And signal strength takes even a big hit than I imagined it would when splittting it.

I'd read in regards to some other manufacturers switchs that they'd incorporated some type of 'ground loop' correction circuit in the thing.

But I'd seen on another forum a guy had been real impressed with the Whirlwind, so I figured I'd give one a shot. Maybe he wasn't using it for the same application, poor man's stereo.

'Ground Loop' feedback? Wonder if that's what's kicking my butt. And if so, if I can do anything to correct it.


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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 1:41 pm
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Perhaps I should send it back and get one of these. They specifically address the 'ground loop' issue with a patented isolation transformer.

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/prod ... sku=150557

Dang it's twice the $ though.

Not clear with their description if it'll also let me select 'BOTH' amps.

Have written them to ask that, and a few more questions.


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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 6:17 am
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Yeah group loop hum is a big factor when using 2 amps. I have never been happy with A/B/Y setups, I tried many times.

I think there are some really good quality switchers out there, I just haven't tried them all. Whirlwind has a good reputation as an affordable & dependable one, but I think you'll need something like Lehle or Tone Bone AB to eliminate a lot of the noise.

Good idea though, it would be awesome to run both of your amps together. That'd be a great setup!


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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:39 am
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Oh yeah, it'd be almost like a Twin Reverb split in half w/ea hunk on one side of the room (perhaps bar stage some day).

The Deluxe Reverb (@22watts into 8 ohms; one 12" Jensen) is basically half of a Twin Reverb (85 watts into 4 ohms; two 12" Jensens), and my NOS @ 2/3 the output the Deluxe Reverb is really only a small notch below the DRRI in sound output when you consider the large amount of power required to get a relatively small increase in usable volume (15watts into 8ohms; one 12" Jensen).

Almost regret stumbling across Lehle though. They're not cheap and I could end up needing ~3 switching devices to do all I want (2 amps, one of which only has one input; 3 guitars, one of which has Ric-O-Sound; and one mono pedal train).

Plus, I'd like to be able to take my Digitech Looper out of the train when not using it. It cuts the signal and adds to the noise level. It's the only thing I've got (or maybe one of only two) that isn't truely bypassed when
switched off. I think one of their higher end switchers will do that for me as well as switch amps. So if one of those 3 button units will act as my amp switcher and also provides a bypass loop for the looper (still trying to figure it out; they range from $320-$380) I may just end up getting it for now, seeing how I like it, then decide how bad I really need two more (one to switch between 3 guitars coming into my pedal train, 1 of which would be only one pup of the RIC; the other to be able to switch the input into the BJ from either the pedal train out or the other pup of the RIC. Them two'll total $540-$600, which will be a big determining factor in 'how bad' I want/need 'em).


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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:04 am
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You might also want to check out Star Touch, I think that is what they are called. I don't know of a web link but they make good ABY switchers as well.

I played a demo of their stuff on a matchless amp and it was pretty awesome. Silent switching


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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:31 pm
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Looked up the Star Touch's. Look real nice, similar to the Whirlwind I got in the other day. No contact e-mail, but they do list a phone #. I'll call them, but I think I already know what the answer will be.

The problem I have with the Whirlwind, the unacceptible problem, is that when used as an either/or/both from my pedal train to my 2 amps is the 'HUM' that appears to be very common, and referred to as 'ground loop'.

After some digging, I ran across Lehle. (Pronounced Layla, ala Clapton, with a bit of a German accent.)

They use isolation transformers in the signal path to eliminate the hum. One reason they're more expensive. (the basic switch is twice the cost of the Whirlwind or Star Touch. Just looking at the picture, either on a web supplier site like Mf, or on Lehle's site, they appear to be extremely high quality).

I do wonder about signal degradation/alteration across a transformer, but don't imagine it to be discernable.

In fact I wrote them the day before yesterday, then again yesterday with some additional questions, and today I got an e-mail back from the guy who owns and started the company, Burkhard Georg Lehle.

Turns out to do everything I want to, including being able to bypass my JamMan Looper pedal (which I don't remember if I mentioned above; but it cuts and noises up my signal a bit) will require 3 (or 4) different switching components. If I go with all Lehle, they total $890 (or $870). (Insert expletive here.)

I don't know if I'll go that route yet. I don't think I NEED the Lehle's except at one point. The switching between, or combining, the two amps. I think I will go ahead and bite the bullit on that one. Their Lehle Little Dual. $230. Whether I send the Whirlwind back and use that to cover half the price of the Lehle I've yet to decide. I could very well use the Whirlwind to select between two different inputs to my 'Single Channel Only" BJ. I'll check it out tonight tomorrow to see if there's any issues with it in that role.

But the Lehle's are, it looks like to me, the best.

Thought I ws just about done gearing up.

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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:34 pm
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It's amazing how much gear is out there isn't it? It's like overwhelming.

Tone Bone has some other ABY stuff you might wanna check, but I agree I think Lehle is THE best. They have a heckuva reputation from very critical ears. I don't own any ABY stuff currently, but need to.

I want to switch the double channels on my matchless.

Let me know what you get, would be curious to see how it works out.
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:40 pm
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Miami Mike wrote:
dafreeze wrote:
Very curious how you 'Stereo'.


Try a Y-Cord, Splitter, A+B Box or something like a signal processor with dual outs.

Something like this works fine :

http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/prod ... D=26018241


Miami, I was never able to locate a y-chord splitter that has one 1/4" mono female to two 1/4" mono females. (In fact I wrote Monster Cable. They auto acknowledged my request, but never wrote back. Disappointing. I've got at least $500 worth of their gold colored end cables/connections.)

But now I know that it, any splitter or simple A/B is going to do the exact same thing that this Whirlwind (which was a hunerd and ten bucks) is doing.


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