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Post subject: Re: PICTURES ONLY * Surround your Axes w/Favorite VINTAGE AM
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:36 am
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just so somebody(shimmy) :lol: doesn't attack me for being in the wrong forum or us straying too far off subject :lol: I'll post this pic of my '67 Vibrolux chassis when I was replacing some things a few months ago.
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Post subject: Re: PICTURES ONLY * Surround your Axes w/Favorite VINTAGE AM
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:26 pm
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Prolly just me... but there is something about a well-restored vintage amp. If this doesn't give you a hard-on, no amount of V-I-A-G-R-A will. :lol:

Photo just OOZES tonal potential.


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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:16 pm
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BMW2002Ti wrote:
Prolly just me... but there is something about a well-restored vintage amp. If this doesn't give you a hard-on, no amount of V-I-A-G-R-A will. :lol:

Photo just OOZES tonal potential.

:lol: :lol:
I really love that amp BMW,it's a tone mo-chine!
I find myself taking it to most every gig now,the thing just gets better!
I replaced the filter caps and other 'lytics,and the rectifier and power tube sockets....they were pretty loose,and also the resistors on the sockets....that's all so far except tubes naturally.


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Post subject: Re: PICTURES ONLY * Surround your Axes w/Favorite VINTAGE AM
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:41 pm
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Arc-n-spark wrote:
On this point you are wrong and I think you need to put this one to bed. The manufacturing industry has misused the term as we have already told you. Please read enough of this article to understand what the term means.
http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/p ... -to-pt.htm
Point to point construction and hand wiring are two different things. Point to point construction is hand wired but hand wiring something does not mean it is point to point construction, it simply means that the wiring has been done by hand. Many electronic devices consist of PCBs that are hand wired into a chassis. That is not point to point construction.



I stand corrected. I am sorry.
Fender wrote: "The Tone-Master is a hand-made, point-to-point wired, tube instrument
amplifier." Seems that Fender is clear in it's writing, but, there may be details that
make the Fender statement or me wrong.
Thanks. I will try to understand what Fender meant by "PTP wired".
Toppscore :)

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Post subject: Re: PICTURES ONLY * Surround your Axes w/Favorite VINTAGE AM
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:45 pm
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BMW2002Ti wrote:
Arc, great link for P2P, handwiring, tagboard, etc description. RG Keen has some of the finest posts on amps. My idea of true handwiring, P2P is shown in this Luminesence pre-amp I helped restore. Noticed the raised copper wire grounding strap? Which is grounded to single points on the chassis. And some very nice red based RCA 5691 and 5692 tubes. You can see how easy it is to change-out or modified a part or section of this unit.
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Very cool. Thanks for the share. That photo shows a very clean project/job.
Quite often I read about point-to-point amps being a real "rats nest"
and your project is anything, but.

Later this year, I am going to purchase one of those amp kits and build
an amp that fits into my group. I've been thinking about a 1x15 combo amp.
Toppscore :)

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Post subject: Re: PICTURES ONLY * Surround your Axes w/Favorite VINTAGE AM
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:47 pm
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BMW2002Ti wrote:
Prolly just me... but there is something about a well-restored vintage amp. If this doesn't give you a hard-on, no amount of V-I-A-G-R-A will. :lol:
Photo just OOZES tonal potential.


Looks like you will need an "open-back" amp :lol:

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Post subject: Re: PICTURES ONLY * Surround your Axes w/Favorite VINTAGE AM
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:48 pm
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Retroverbial wrote:
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Left-coast priorities are sure different from those of us living in flyover country...... :shock: Arjay


Very correct. Us "LEFTY" progressive rockers eat it up and then while "flying over"
your desert wasteland, we do dump the "bull $@!&" right into your fried cactus desert BBQs
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Ironic that you spend hours typing byzantine and nebulous diatribes against everyone here on this forum yet you can't manage a few minutes to shoot and post some photographs of the gear you CLAIM TO OWN. Everytime I read your rambling rationalizations I'm reminded of Humphrey Bogart's Captain Queeg sitting in that witness chair, endlessly palming the ball bearings in the court martial scene of "The Caine Mutiny".
:mrgreen: Arjay


Not everyone here. Just one.

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Post subject: Re: PICTURES ONLY * Surround your Axes w/Favorite VINTAGE AM
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:51 pm
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shimmilou wrote:
I applaud the effort, but it's already been said several times, and Topp just won't accept it. Funny how one wrong reference somehow equals "the whole industry". People also abuse the term "reissue", to describe something that was never an "issue" to begin with, and using that term doesn't change reality. Example, the MIM "Classic Series '50s Strat", referred to as a "reissue"


Hi, Shimmilou. Did I miss something?
What reissue were you referring to?
Sorry if I'm off base. Toppscore :)

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Post subject: Re: PICTURES ONLY * Surround your Axes w/Favorite VINTAGE AM
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:55 pm
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tbazzone wrote:
My bad shim you are part of the crew.

Of course, we are all shuckin' & jivin' ~ a good thing :lol:

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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:56 pm
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shimmilou wrote:
Pretty good company I guess. :| Well, except for maybe the Mennonite guitar player from Tenn (JK). :lol:

Mennonites, Hatfields & McCoys = all good :)

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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:03 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
Like I said in an earlier post on this subject; point-to-point has become the "kleenex" and "xerox" of the guitar amp world. If you use the wrong term often enough, it becomes the accepted term. :roll: Notice I didn't say it becomes the "correct" term. :wink:


Seems right to me. Better that beating up all the bad advertisers.
A good thing to know, and I can imagine, is that I read the Paul Rivera Fender era amps
are the "Last" (you pick it:) hand-wired, point-to-point, etc. amps produced by Fender.
So, when that claim or advertisement comes up, what are they thinking?
What production or design changes were made that make sellers or advertisers or
even reference books state that the Paul Rivera Era was the end of something good?

I am very interested in the answer. Thanks. Toppscore :)

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Post subject: Re: PICTURES ONLY * Surround your Axes w/Favorite VINTAGE AM
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:12 pm
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BMW2002Ti wrote:
" Pretty cool axe. There are 36 notes between octaves, rather than the typical 13 notes. "
Interesting, I guess. I just bend to get semi-tones... maybe old school.
A hint (now don't take it too personally, please)--- might help your street cred to remove the price tag... before the photo shoot.
Just a thought. :mrgreen:


Hahaha - No problem. It has not arrived yet.
It is called the "FreeNote 12-Tone Ultra Plus Microtonal Guitar".
I got it for a decent price. It's missing the manual that describes the
special tuning and to better understand the 36 note microtonal structure.
So, there will be a big learning curve. Should open up new ways to rethink
playing the normal 21 or 22 fret guitars. Maybe there is a users group.

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Post subject: Re: PICTURES ONLY * Surround your Axes w/Favorite VINTAGE AM
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:19 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
BMW2002Ti wrote:
Interesting, I guess. I just bend to get semi-tones... maybe old school.
If you really need a guitar with a lot of notes to impress people, just go fretless. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Fretless scares me. I've never played a fretless axe. Have you?
Not sure how it works. Check the #2 fretless guitar:
http://www.freenotemusic.com/site/store/guitars.html

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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:24 pm
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Rebelsoul wrote:
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tbazzone wrote:
Shim your going to be part of the shuck and jive crew if you keep talking like that. :lol:

Ya know, some people might consider referring to someone as part of a "shuck and jive crew" to be rather racist. Just something certain people may want to consider. Not referring to you, of course. :wink:

:lol: yeah!! If I had started that term and being from the redneck South,Topp would have reported me,for treating people like "Steppen Fetchit" in the oldtime movies.


Actually, I use it in business quite a bit.
Like I said, to me it means friendly interactions and teasing and BS'ing.
But, gotta watch what is on the receiving end.
My church has had more than one person complain about
comments coming from a good heart but interpreted as negative.
Closed-mindedness has a right to be, but open-mindedness is much more gracious & joyous.

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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 11:26 pm
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Rebelsoul wrote:
BMW2002Ti wrote:
" Pretty cool axe. There are 36 notes between octaves, rather than the typical 13 notes. "
Interesting, I guess. I just bend to get semi-tones... maybe old school.
A hint (now don't take it too personally, please)--- might help your street cred to remove the price tag... before the photo shoot.
Just a thought. :mrgreen:

Me too...I can bend to any note I want....that guitar would be worthless to me!


I am hoping for value as a learning instrument,
interesting concepts and maybe/hopefully a useful tool.
I shall see what is on that side of the music spectrum.
Never can tell :)

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