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Post subject: 1964 fender princeton1
Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:50 pm
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Wanting cap job etc. done to my 64 fender princeton, live in litchfield illinois, got any recomendations where to take and how much?


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Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:05 pm
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A cap can for the Princeton runs about $60 on Ebay. Basic installation shouldn't cost more than $35 but most consciencious techs will inspect the power-rail resistors and replace them if they're out of spec. As well, the bias should be checked for drift once the new filter caps are installed. Figure on $150 to put your amp back on the road and barring any other issues, it should be good to go for another decade.

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Post subject: Re: 1964 fender princeton1
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:24 am
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What is a cap can? I am refering to the capacitors needing to be replaced since they are original and also power cord needs upgraded to 3 prong instead of 2, I forgot to mention that. Are we talking about the same thing here? I'm looking for a real pro who knows his stuff on these older amps and does great work, I live in litchfield illinois, any suggestions? The amp was making a buzzing sound, so I opened it up and found a solder joint broken, I fixed this issue, amp still has a buzzing noise just not near as bad now. Would like to take amp to somebody trustworthy in the st. louis mo. or springfield il. area. Know anybody?


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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 11:52 am
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This is a cap can......

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Contained within it are the electrolytic capacitors that filter out any AC voltages from the rectifier tube and ensure ripple-free DC voltages are provided to the various stages of the amp. If AC voltages leak or bleed through due to one or more of the capacitor elements within the can going bad, it causes audible hum issues.

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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 5:29 pm
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Take your '64 Princeton to Killer Vintage in St Louis, only about a hour south of you. The guy there is Obeid Khan, he is former amp designer and builder for Ampeg and Crate. This guy come highly recommended by a couple of guitar players I know in the area. I only moved here about four years ago and had a guy that did it out of his home, but he passed away a few months back and I have been actively hunting for a trusted guy, and every guitar player I talk to says take it there.

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http://killervintage.com/index.phpoptio ... &Itemid=16

By the way I too have a 64 Princeton too and it is a great sounding little porch weasle!

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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:24 pm
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T2Stratman wrote:
By the way I too have a 64 Princeton too and it is a great sounding little porch weasle!


+1!

They make for great-sounding *big* porch weasels as well......

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Post subject: Re: 1964 fender princeton1
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:41 pm
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Yeah Blue, I'd say bring it up to Harvard, IL. But that's too far to travel for a reasonably simple job! If we'd order the cap can, ahead of time, I could take care of that in a couple of days. Forming the caps takes a good 8 hours. But again, that distance doesn't make sense. Sounds like T2 has a good route. Art

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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 7:02 pm
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Yeah Blue, I'd say bring it up to Harvard, IL. But that's too far to travel for a reasonably simple job! If we'd order the cap can, ahead of time, I could take care of that in a couple of days. Forming the caps takes a good 8 hours. But again, that distance doesn't make sense. Sounds like T2 has a good route. Art



Yeah I don't normally like a guy who works in a Music Store of any kind, but talked with this guy when I went to kind of check em out after getting some solid references, and the guy is nice, does an inventory of your amp, tubes, transformers, etc. He goes over everything with you prior to doing anything and he doesn't push you into any kind of mods or his way of things. He can if you want, but if you want strictly Fender stock specs, that is what he does for ya. Again, comes highly recommended. Art if you ever get the hankering for moving about 4 hours south, I know a couple guys who would be waiting at your door with thier amps! :lol:

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Post subject: Re: 1964 fender princeton1
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:55 pm
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Yeah T2, that's the way I go with the players, I work with. You know, I've lived in this 100+ yr old house for 34 years. Think my toenails have sprouted roots, but come Christmas, that St Louis weather always seems great. Very Cool, Man!!! Art

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Post subject: Re: 1964 fender princeton1
Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:35 am
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blueflying, lately I've been using the CE 30/20/20/20 @ 525VDC in Princeton's & PR's. They are taller than the 475 VDC rated one (closer to OEM Mallorys or Spragues). So, they have more electrolyitc fluid and should last longer.


http://www.tubesandmore.com/products/C-EC30-20X3-525


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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:16 pm
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What kind of mods are available for this amp? Its a 1964 fender princeton blackface with white barrel knobs. No reverb just tremolo. I need a footswitch to to turn tremolo on and off. I have a gibson lg1 acoustic with L.R. baggs m1a soundhole pickup that I am planning on using with this amp. What do you think?


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Post subject: Re: 1964 fender princeton1
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:12 pm
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The Princeton should not require a footswitch for tremolo operation. Unlike the larger Fender blackface's, this circuit (like that of the Vibrochamp, Bronco, and Princeton Reverb) is always "on". The footswitch is required to turn it off.

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Post subject: Re: 1964 fender princeton1
Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:17 pm
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Sounds like I need amp looked at. Thanks.


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Post subject: Re: 1964 fender princeton1
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:46 pm
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Unless you have knowledge of the amp's history to the contrary, it should be given a full bench check by a competent technician who's familiar with vintage tube-amp architecture. Have him perform any safety upgrades and reliability servicing before use.

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Post subject: Re: 1964 fender princeton1
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:25 am
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Im taking it to killer vintage. Seems to be ligit. Everythings checked out with these guys. Keeping amp as original as I can, though a 3 prong plug would be good. Thanks.


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