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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 11:55 am
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However, if you are looking for amps with a REALLY bright sound, you need look no further than Marshall. We all know that the first Marshall amp was a clone of the Fender 5F6A Bassman (which has a bright channel and presence control):


Very interesting. I am very interested in the Rockabilly and Surf guitar sounds.

IMHO, Bright is the word for the Surf/Rockabilly music,
but do you ever see Marshalls being used for this music?
Just interested, and wondering.
Most Americana music uses Fender guitars and amps.

What do you say about Marshall bright and Rockabilly/Surf music?
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I don't really have an opinion on this.

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:01 pm
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The Beach Boys obviously didn't sense any compatibility between Marshall amps and their style of surf music......

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Noteworthy in this photograph is Al Jardine's Polar White '62 Les Paul Custom.

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 1:33 pm
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And this guy didn't play surf music. :lol: :lol:

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:58 am
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bluesky636 wrote:
No, not really. In the Fender implementation, the bright switch and bright channel serve the same purpose and to have them both would be redundant although there is nothing technically preventing one from doing so if implemented properly. Still has nothing to do with compatability with the presence control as I have already shown that a number of amps have bright switches/presence controls or bright channels/presence controls. However, if you are looking for amps with a REALLY bright sound, you need look no further than Marshall. We all know that the first Marshall amp was a clone of the Fender 5F6A Bassman (which has a bright channel and presence control): After a few iterations in the Marshall design, the bright channel was modified to be even brighter than the original Bassman/Marshall design by modifications to both the volume bypass bright cap, the coupling caps, and the preamp cathode bypass caps. A detailed technical explanation of these changes can be found here if anyone is interested: It should also be noted that Marshall continued to use the presence control but with running changes to both the feedback source (16 ohm tap or 8 ohm tap of the output transformer) as well as the feedback resistor itself, both of which change the overall level of feedback.


Imagine . . . . the Fantasy = What are the tonal possibilities of

Plugging your guitar cord into a Custom Fender 4x10 Bassman Amp's
BRIGHT Channel plug-in (replacing the normal channel),
flipping-ON the Custom Fender BRIGHT Switch,
and then turing the Special PRESENCE Control to a mighty eight :shock:

aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh "Sweet Dreams Are Made Of This" :mrgreen:

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:04 am
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Retroverbial wrote:
The Beach Boys obviously didn't sense any compatibility between Marshall amps and their style of surf music...... Noteworthy in this photograph is Al Jardine's Polar White '62 Les Paul Custom. Arjay


Nice Photoshop job :lol:

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:24 am
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bluesky636 wrote:
And this guy didn't play surf music. :lol: :lol:

First of all, Hendrix was forced to play Marshalls when Canada
would not let The Experience take their Dick Dale Signatured Special
1968 Fender Dual Showman Reverbs equipment into Canada.

Second, Jimi did play Surf music.

Jimi loved Surf Music so much, he wanted to take attention away from
the surf chords and surf scale possibilities he was stealing for his solos:
WHAT DID JIMI HENDRIX MEAN WHEN HE SAID "YOU'LL NEVER HEAR SURF MUSIC AGAIN"? There are two stories. (1) Jimi was referring, with respect, to the fact that Dick Dale was in the hospital with cancer and not expected to survive. This is the story Dick Dale tells. (2) Jimi was referring, with a sneer, to the fact that the then-passe Beach Boys had backed out of the 1967 Monterey Pop Festival. This is the story the Beach Boys tell.

Hendrix popularized use of the wah-wah pedals in mainstream rock which he often used to deliver an exaggerated sense of pitch in his solos, particularly with high bends, complex guitar playing, and use of legato. The wah-wah sound was delibertly used to hide the instrumental surf scales Hendrix learned from the Ventures, Link Wray and The Challengers. Jimi was influenced at an early qge by Little Richard and wanted to play guitar like Little Richard sang. Hendrix's first formal band was The Velvetones, who performed regularly at the Yesler Terrace Neighborhood House without pay. A known Velvetones' set list included several covers of early Doo Wop, Surf and R&B songs. He later joined the Rocking Kings, who played professionally at such venues as the Birdland. Henderix also spent time with the Isley Brothers.

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:58 am
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Toppscore wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:
The Beach Boys obviously didn't sense any compatibility between Marshall amps and their style of surf music...... Noteworthy in this photograph is Al Jardine's Polar White '62 Les Paul Custom. Arjay


Nice Photoshop job :lol:

??????? :?
btw,Jimi was playing R&B in Nashville and Clarksville,TN. after he got out of the army,with Billy Cox....at no time have I ever read where they did surf music in that era,just R&B.


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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:03 am
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I saw Jimi live twice and in neither performance did I detect any surf music influences.

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 10:07 am
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This is all getting too weird, so I am bailing on this thread. Bye-bye.

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 10:12 am
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bluesky636 wrote:
This is all getting too weird, so I am bailing on this thread. Bye-bye.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: has been an odd one hasn't it Bill..... :mrgreen:


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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 12:51 pm
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Rebelsoul wrote:
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This is all getting too weird, so I am bailing on this thread. Bye-bye.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: has been an odd one hasn't it Bill..... :mrgreen:


Ja. Auf weidersen.

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:49 pm
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Yeah, but "Wipe -Out" was in my first band's set list for a few years(1965). Southern California, around the Santa Monica area, you could hardly get away without playing it, besides, that was the drummers claim to fame! Art

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