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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:19 am
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Yes. Clarity.
A good word with good meaning :wink: I promise to be more clear.

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:35 am
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Toppscore wrote:
Yes. Clarity.
A good word with good meaning :wink: I promise to be more clear.


No hard feelings. :D

As an engineer I tend to be very specific with my words, both written and spoken. :lol:

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:30 pm
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Toppscore wrote:
Yes. Clarity.
A good word with good meaning :wink: I promise to be more clear.

Hey man,you seem to be very excitable...at least your posts have an excited tone to them....kinda makes me nervous.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
btw,you have some cool amps,start a thread and post some pics,we like amp porn here! :D


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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:35 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:
Bill, do you recall who Don Quixote was?

:wink:

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Yeah. I know. I just couldn't resist.

Wow Bill,that was an impressive post earlier!...love the info there. :D


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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:36 pm
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Rebelsoul wrote:
Toppscore wrote:
btw,you have some cool amps,start a thread and post some pics,we like amp porn here!


+1!

Especially "in action" shots of your amps on stage.

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:37 pm
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Rebelsoul wrote:
bluesky636 wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:
Bill, do you recall who Don Quixote was?

:wink:

Arjay


Yeah. I know. I just couldn't resist.

Wow Bill,that was an impressive post earlier!...love the info there. :D


Thanks. The engineer in me just came busting out. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:06 pm
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Rebelsoul wrote:
Toppscore wrote:
Yes. Clarity.
A good word with good meaning :wink: I promise to be more clear.

Hey man,you seem to be very excitable...at least your posts have an excited tone to them....kinda makes me nervous.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
btw,you have some cool amps,start a thread and post some pics,we like amp porn here! :D


Sorry to make you nervous. Maybe I should ghost write for Stephen King :shock:
Toppscore 8)

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:10 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
Toppscore wrote:
Yes. Clarity.
A good word with good meaning :wink: I promise to be more clear.

No hard feelings. :D
As an engineer I tend to be very specific with my words, both written and spoken. :lol:


No problem.
I have an OCD issue with Always/Never/Totally/Completely/Zero/100% :oops:

Gotta go take some meds :lol: You know, crank up that
100w Showman Reverb with a Weber 200 Mass at bedroom level :shock:

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 7:04 am
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Toppscore wrote:
bluesky636 wrote:
Toppscore wrote:
Yes. Clarity.
A good word with good meaning :wink: I promise to be more clear.

No hard feelings. :D
As an engineer I tend to be very specific with my words, both written and spoken. :lol:


No problem.
I have an OCD issue with Always/Never/Totally/Completely/Zero/100% :oops:

Gotta go take some meds :lol: You know, crank up that
100w Showman Reverb with a Weber 200 Mass at bedroom level :shock:


Making music, especially good, loud music, is the best medicine. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:43 pm
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bluesky636 wrote:
Making music, especially good, loud music, is the best medicine. :wink:

Thanks :wink:

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 6:13 am
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bluesky636 wrote:
3. And your last statement, "Bright and Presence are not compatible???" is clearly false based on the amps listed above.
You're welcome. Apology accepted.


So, Bluesky, did you ever research to see if Fender did produce an amp
with a bright switch, a bright plug-in channel, and a presence control?
I am interested.
Thanks. Toppscore :)

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 9:31 am
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Toppscore wrote:
bluesky636 wrote:
3. And your last statement, "Bright and Presence are not compatible???" is clearly false based on the amps listed above.
You're welcome. Apology accepted.


So, Bluesky, did you ever research to see if Fender did produce an amp
with a bright switch, a bright plug-in channel, and a presence control?
I am interested.
Thanks. Toppscore :)


No, not really. In the Fender implementation, the bright switch and bright channel serve the same purpose and to have them both would be redundant although there is nothing technically preventing one from doing so if implemented properly. Still has nothing to do with compatability with the presence control as I have already shown that a number of amps have bright switches/presence controls or bright channels/presence controls. However, if you are looking for amps with a REALLY bright sound, you need look no further than Marshall.

We all know that the first Marshall amp was a clone of the Fender 5F6A Bassman (which has a bright channel and presence control):

http://ampwares.com/schematics/bassman_5f6a.pdf

After a few iterations in the Marshall design, the bright channel was modified to be even brighter than the original Bassman/Marshall design by modifications to both the volume bypass bright cap, the coupling caps, and the preamp cathode bypass caps. A detailed technical explanation of these changes can be found here if anyone is interested:

http://ampbooks.com/home/classic-circui ... 87-preamp/

http://ampbooks.com/home/classic-circui ... ltage-amp/

It should also be noted that Marshall continued to use the presence control but with running changes to both the feedback source (16 ohm tap or 8 ohm tap of the output transformer) as well as the feedback resistor itself, both of which change the overall level of feedback.

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:21 am
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bluesky636 wrote:
However, if you are looking for amps with a REALLY bright sound, you need look no further than Marshall. We all know that the first Marshall amp was a clone of the Fender 5F6A Bassman (which has a bright channel and presence control):


Very interesting. I am very interested in the Rockabilly and Surf guitar sounds.

IMHO, Bright is the word for the Surf/Rockabilly music,
but do you ever see Marshalls being used for this music?
Just interested, and wondering.
Most Americana music uses Fender guitars and amps.

What do you say about Marshall bright and Rockabilly/Surf music?
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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:04 am
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Toppscore wrote:
Most Americana music uses Fender guitars and amps.


Is this your opinion or do you have a source for this claim?

I'm not getting on your case but this seems like a logical conclusion since Fender made so much gear but you state it as fact and I'd like to know where you are getting your info from.

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Post subject: Re: the Fender BRIGHT switch
Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 7:06 am
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Lots of original surf music was made with Fender amps and Mosrite guitars,and other brands.


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