It is currently Mon Mar 16, 2020 8:30 pm

All times are UTC - 7 hours



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 37 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
Post subject: Re: intro and a Tremolux question
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:34 pm
Offline
Professional Musician
Professional Musician

Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:53 pm
Posts: 2252
Location: Harvard IL
Rhust, I've got to say, the Gibson isn't a good idea for you. I was caught up in reverie. The construction is tag boards and flying leads, which is OK for an amp tech. But not as substantial as a Fender of the same era. Arjay has the better advise, in his recommendation. And if you're thinkin' about an out-board reverb, that Princeton(they have) might just be the ticket. Any way, Keep Pickin' ! Art .... It's a good thing,that I'm no stranger to mistakes!

_________________
None of Us are free, if One of Us is chained !


Top
Profile
Fender Play Winter Sale 2020
Post subject: Re: intro and a Tremolux question
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:00 pm
Offline
Professional Musician
Professional Musician
User avatar

Joined: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:49 am
Posts: 1153
Location: South Bay, CA
Late to the party...sorry.

Definitely change your plug to a 3-prong, get rid of the "death cap," and pop newer filter capacitors in that '64. Have the tech save all the parts and you can keep them on a shelf in case you ever sell it and some guy wants it "all original." All 3 of those mods are easily reversible.

The Princeton Reverb as Arjay put it is the ultimate porch weasel, and with a 1x12 cab under it. Love mine, and love the reverb and tube-driven tremolo - very different from the Tremolux.

Please, please don't mod your tremolux to add reverb -- i'd rather buy the head off you and sell you a Pro reverb. I've found on my Bandmaster, Showman and Mini Z that I don't miss reverb -- instead, I really like using 2 different delay pedals to add depth to the sound. I'm also playing in a band with another guitar player and 1-2 keyboard players, so it helps to contain the sound.

Ibanez Analog AD9 Delay - 2nd pedal I ever bought back in 1983, great for slapback. Have it on my lead loop with a Katana Boost.

TC Electronic Flashback Delay -- amazing pedal with lots of settings, but I've left it on Tape since purchasing it. It gets warbly and liquid at the end like a tape delay, very analog-esque rolloff, and sounds amazing.

Or if reverb is what you're craving, the Boss Fender Reverb in a pedal works if you can't get/find a matching Fender outboard reverb for your Tremolux.

_________________
Image
'59? Bogen Challenger CHA-33, '65 Bandmaster, '65 Tremolux, 65 Showman;
'74 SF Princeton; '77 SF Princeton Reverb; Dr. Z Mini Z

Our band: http://www.facebook.com/thetoysband


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: intro and a Tremolux question
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:07 am
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:56 pm
Posts: 59
I appreciate the input, I'm going to pick up the boss reverb soon... Idk how I've missed that guy for so long...

yea, I I'm not that keen on modding it either... I love the way it sounds.. I really need a good attenuator though, right now I can only play it on "2" and that doesn't really wake it up... so I end up using amplitube or garage band with the iRig for a lot of my practice, which isn't ideal either... but the amp isn't for sale ;) maybe it should be, but not yet :)

will the cap-change affect the sound?

I really don't use many effects... I have 3 Distortion pedals and a wah... I just wanted to add a subtle reverb.

I just started using a VT999 for my Overdrive... swapped out the tube for a JJ 12AU7 and that thing really cooks... I basically turn the amp on 2, and then fine tune my volume with it and add a little dirt... makes it sound like it's turned up even at low volumes... I usually play with at least a little OD...

just to piss you off... I'll tell you what I paid for the amp 20 years ago... $100

a guy found it in his attic and didn't want to put any money into new tubes to see if it worked... I gambled, and won. I think the first set of tubes I bought were $75, and I had a shop clean the pots and stuff(scratchy)... they charged me $50 IIRC... so total investment was 225... I traded a POS zoom 9000 effects processor for the 2 peavey scorpion classics and built the cabinet myself out of birch plywood(stained)... you now have permission to hate me for that.

Image


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: intro and a Tremolux question
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:32 am
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:48 am
Posts: 26417
Location: Tombstone Territory
Nice!

I'd love to build an OEM-spec 2 x 10 cab for that thing.

Arjay

_________________
"Here's why reliability is job one: A great sounding amp that breaks down goes from being a favorite piece of gear to a useless piece of crap in less time than it takes to read this sentence." -- BRUCE ZINKY


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: intro and a Tremolux question
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:25 am
Offline
Rock Star
Rock Star
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:38 am
Posts: 4333
Location: Tennessee
Retroverbial wrote:
Nice!

I'd love to build an OEM-spec 2 x 10 cab for that thing.

Arjay

Since I've owned the 2x10 Super and the 2x10 Vibrolux Reverb...that speaker config. is becoming my favorite,I just really like the sound of those 10s.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: intro and a Tremolux question
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:40 pm
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:56 pm
Posts: 59
yea, I should really build a 2x10 cab and sell the 12s... with some nice lower wattage speakers


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: intro and a Tremolux question
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:08 pm
Offline
Professional Musician
Professional Musician

Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:53 pm
Posts: 2252
Location: Harvard IL
I like that cab ! And the birch is a good solid choice. I should be starting work on a pine(birch baffle board) 1X10 cab by the middle of the week. It'll be a mate for a beast of a cab I put together for an old Amp, 18X14X10. Oh yeah, the speakers are Weber Vintage Series Alnico 10"-15watt. Art

_________________
None of Us are free, if One of Us is chained !


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: intro and a Tremolux question
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:22 pm
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:48 am
Posts: 26417
Location: Tombstone Territory
Rebelsoul wrote:
Since I've owned the 2x10 Super and the 2x10 Vibrolux Reverb...that speaker config. is becoming my favorite,I just really like the sound of those 10s.


+1

I'm sure getting a lot of mileage from my 2 x 10 Bandmaster combo......

Image

Arjay

_________________
"Here's why reliability is job one: A great sounding amp that breaks down goes from being a favorite piece of gear to a useless piece of crap in less time than it takes to read this sentence." -- BRUCE ZINKY


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: intro and a Tremolux question
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:11 am
Offline
Rock Star
Rock Star
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2010 11:38 am
Posts: 4333
Location: Tennessee
I love that amp RJ...I'll bet it kicks major azz!...looks great too!


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: intro and a Tremolux question
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:50 am
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:23 am
Posts: 14
just wondering, are there any power-lowering mods out there that I should try first?

Have you considered an attenuater? I have a 4 ohm THD, you can pick them up used for 200 or so. I use one on my 62 tremolux, allows you to both jumper the 2 channels (normal and bright mixed) and crank the amp full or near full and keep the volume at a low level. No modding of the amp required.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: intro and a Tremolux question
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:13 pm
Offline
Amateur
Amateur

Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:02 am
Posts: 145
Location: Cambridge, MA
I'm happy with my Dr Z Airbrake. A little more expensive than the THD I think, but works well and doesn't require you match it with the impedance of the amp. I would attenuate a 50 watt Bassman down to bedroom levels and get some nice tube saturation.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: intro and a Tremolux question
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:32 pm
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:56 pm
Posts: 59
davest wrote:
just wondering, are there any power-lowering mods out there that I should try first?

Have you considered an attenuater? I have a 4 ohm THD, you can pick them up used for 200 or so. I use one on my 62 tremolux, allows you to both jumper the 2 channels (normal and bright mixed) and crank the amp full or near full and keep the volume at a low level. No modding of the amp required.



I've heard the attenuators tend to suck tone out a bit tho... is this true? of course right now, I'm just using the volume on 2-3 so it's not really getting that cranked sound anyway... I use a tube OD pedal to bring the dirt.

I have not "jumpered" the channels what do you do? use a 1/4" Y adapter for 1 guitar into both inputs? :shock: what does this change? give you the thick and bright at the same time?

I've kicked around the idea more and more of building either a single 2x10 cab, or a pair of 1x10 cabs for a more twangy, vintage sound.... the 12s have a lot of bass so I end up rolling a lot of it back. what 10" speakers would you use for this? opinions please, speakers are the hardest thing to figure out. that said, these peaveys have been solid, bright, and very clear... but a little heavy on the low end sound.

the reason I thought of 2 1x10 cabs is I could run 1 or run the second with the ext. spkr port. but I guess I could just as easily build it as 1 2x10s cab with 2 4-8ohm inputs

currently I'm running the 2 12s 8 ohm in series to bring it down to the 4 ohm load.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: intro and a Tremolux question
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:59 pm
Offline
Rock Icon
Rock Icon
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:48 am
Posts: 26417
Location: Tombstone Territory
Rhust wrote:
currently I'm running the 2 12s 8 ohm in series to bring it down to the 4 ohm load.


A pair of 8-ohm 12's wired in series yields 16 ohms.

A load such as that is strangling the amp's volume.

Arjay

_________________
"Here's why reliability is job one: A great sounding amp that breaks down goes from being a favorite piece of gear to a useless piece of crap in less time than it takes to read this sentence." -- BRUCE ZINKY


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: intro and a Tremolux question
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:09 pm
Offline
Rock Star
Rock Star
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:18 pm
Posts: 6544
I've built two 2 X 10-inch cabs. One speakers and one combo (to stick a BMR head into). Both are killer, esp for lead work. I used Weber 10A125 speakers. One of my favorite.

Great bass, very sensitive speakers to guitar input, and rapid transient response. Wondering response to guitar sustain. And a cab that's a bit lighter than a 2 X 12. Recommend this format highly.


Top
Profile
Post subject: Re: intro and a Tremolux question
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:17 am
Offline
Hobbyist
Hobbyist

Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:56 pm
Posts: 59
Retroverbial wrote:
Rhust wrote:
currently I'm running the 2 12s 8 ohm in series to bring it down to the 4 ohm load.


A pair of 8-ohm 12's wired in series yields 16 ohms.

A load such as that is strangling the amp's volume.

Arjay



maybe I'm calling it wrong... '3' shakes walls... I'll try to take a pic of how it's wired today... I wired it up the way another 2x12 open-back cab was...


Top
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 37 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

All times are UTC - 7 hours

Fender Play Winter Sale 2020

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: