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Post subject: Re: interconnecting amps
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:34 am
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nedorama wrote:
The Bigshot is the cheaper one with no AC, and retails for <$100. The Tonebone has relay switching (I believe) and status lights plus a drag control.


Correct -- I referenced them bass-ackwards (my bad).

The Tonebone also features buffered outputs for quieter operation. I believe the problems I heard about were centered on those.

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Post subject: Re: interconnecting amps
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:12 am
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nedorama wrote:
If you have the BigShot ABY, there's ground lift, phase and transformer isolation switches - if you have that Radial box, none of the switches worked? I haven't found muddy on either of my amps with it connected, sounds same as running direct.

This is the model I have

http://www.tonebone.com/re-bigshot-aby-detail.htm

Enabling all 3 switches eliminates the noise but makes one amp (I believe output B) sound muddy. This only happens when hooking up the SR and DRRI. I tried another amp with either SR or DRRI and no noise. I called Radial support and was told about the buffer...

Here's what the manual says:

"The BigShot ABY is equipped with an isolation transformer that is designed to eliminate noise by isolating OUTPUT-A from OUTPUT-B. If you are using the ISO switch to eliminate ground loop hum, you will also notice a slight tonal shift on OUTPUT-B as the signal passes through the transformer. This is easily compensated for by adjusting the tone controls on the amp connected to OUTPUT-B. Placing a buffer or preamp before the BigShot will minimize this effect"

I couldn't compensate by adjusting the tone since the treble was already at 10! If I put my TS9 in front the ABY, with switches enabled it doesn't sound muddy, and since the TS9 is not a true bypass I don't have to have the pedal on, but with the BB Preamp it has to be on cause it's a true bypass.


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Post subject: Re: interconnecting amps
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:55 pm
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Ahh. I have my B output going to a Dr. Z mini with 1x12 cab, but hadn't noticed. Thanks for clarifying.

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Post subject: Re: interconnecting amps
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:41 am
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When using 2 amps I usually "daisy chain" them but that's becoming harder to do with the proliferation of single input amps.Ibanez made the ultimate A-B amp connector years ago,it was called the Flying Pan and you plugged your guitar into it with preferably 2 identical amps and the pedal would automatically pan from one amp to the other but if you wanted it would also combine it with a phase shift that gave you an over the top Doppler effect.

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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:54 am
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guitslinger wrote:
When using 2 amps I usually "daisy chain" them but that's becoming harder to do with the proliferation of single input amps.


Vintage Fender amps always have multiple inputs per channel.

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Post subject: Re: interconnecting amps
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:36 pm
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guitslinger wrote:
When using 2 amps I usually "daisy chain" them but that's becoming harder to do with the proliferation of single input amps.Ibanez made the ultimate A-B amp connector years ago,it was called the Flying Pan and you plugged your guitar into it with preferably 2 identical amps and the pedal would automatically pan from one amp to the other but if you wanted it would also combine it with a phase shift that gave you an over the top Doppler effect.


I honestly believe that no one amp sounds as good and two amps setup in a complimentary fashion.

Years ago I used to plug my guitar into a pan pedal and output to two amps. The layered sound is awesome.

I could also play with the pedal and bounce the sound around. It was easy to get a little carried away with the pedal but it was fun. :wink:

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Post subject: Re: interconnecting amps
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:51 am
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You can pick up an ART Power Plant for about $60 and it has 2 outputs to drive amps. It also has an effects loop and a line out, channel switching, and give you an extra stage of EQ'ing. Pretty inexpensive piece of kit that opens up a world of possibilities.


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