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Post subject: VINTAGE 1967 PRO REVERB BLACKFACE VS VOX HERITAGE AC15 HANDW
Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2010 9:45 pm
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HELLO EVERYONE!!! If we can put preference aside for the moment,Would you all say that this blackface is of equal or better quality than the VOX AC15 HANDWIRED HERITAGE AMP that I have? Im new to tube amps, and IM just curious to what the opinion of some of u is about that. ONE thing I dislike about the VOX, is that chimy bright tone yuk :? AND the fact there is no reverb , But hey what am Idoing this a fender chat room not VOX !!! :? :oops: I think I can really get some great guitar tones workin with these 2 amps together :idea: :idea: .Any of you have a blackface pro reverb? thanks again :lol: out!!


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I consider a vintage Fender blackface anything superior to what's being built today -- by anybody.

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I have a '66 BF Pro Reverb in almost mint condition,I've changed the speakers to Webers,and it is great!
It has the classic Fender tones,and enough power to gig with anywhere...it's not the only BF amp I own,but with either it or a Deluxe Reverb,you have the bases covered......and there's no comparison to anything modern imho.
If you use a guitar with single coils,it's a great combination for some reason.....
You asked. :wink:


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Rebelsoul wrote:
I have a '66 BF Pro Reverb in almost mint condition,I've changed the speakers to Webers,and it is great!
It has the classic Fender tones,and enough power to gig with anywhere...it's not the only BF amp I own,but with either it or a Deluxe Reverb,you have the bases covered......and there's no comparison to anything modern imho.
If you use a guitar with single coils,it's a great combination for some reason.....
You asked. :wink:
:oops: :oops: (its been a long tome since ive talked in any forum,i hope im doing this right :oops: : :oops: , i mean replying by hitting the quote button) :oops: : I am starting to also think that they are one of the best or the best! !! im tellin u that VOX AC15 really packs a nice punch 8) i believe its voxs best they have out there :) :? : im doin it again this is the FENDER FORUM NOT VOX :lol:


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Retroverbial wrote:
I consider a vintage Fender blackface anything superior to what's being built today -- by anybody.

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IVE heard that and in fact I just read that in this book I grabbed from amazon,Its called THE SOUL OF TONE 60 YEARS OF FENDER AMPS BY TONY BACON. GREAT READ BEAUTIFUL LOOKIN BOOK WITH 2 CD DEMONSTATING VINTAGE AND MODERN AMPS. The author quotes that he believes that the blackface pro reverb is the best amp ever made.and similiar quotes by pros say if they were on a desert island a BF DELUXE REVERB is all they would need. This book is i believe part 2. Part 1 was THE STRATOCASTER CHRONICLES , which was amazing!!!!


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Post subject: Re: VINTAGE 1967 PRO REVERB BLACKFACE VS VOX HERITAGE AC15 H
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:11 am
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HELLO EVERYONE!!! If we can put preference aside for the moment,Would you all say that this blackface is of equal or better quality than the VOX AC15 HANDWIRED HERITAGE AMP that I have? Im new to tube amps, and IM just curious to what the opinion of some of u is about that. ONE thing I dislike about the VOX, is that chimy bright tone yuk :? AND the fact there is no reverb , But hey what am Idoing this a fender chat room not VOX !!! :? :oops: I think I can really get some great guitar tones workin with these 2 amps together :idea: :idea: .Any of you have a blackface pro reverb? thanks again :lol: out!!


You purchased an amp with no reverb and complain that it doesn't have reverb??? :roll:

You don't like that your VOX amp sounds bright and chimey??? :roll:

Did you test out the amp in the shop before you bought it?


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koocho wrote:
IVE heard that and in fact I just read that in this book I grabbed from amazon,Its called THE SOUL OF TONE 60 YEARS OF FENDER AMPS BY TONY BACON.


I'm sorry......that book's author is Tom Wheeler.

Bacon has written some very useful tomes but he didn't write that one.

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Post subject: Re: VINTAGE 1967 PRO REVERB BLACKFACE VS VOX HERITAGE AC15 H
Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:05 am
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koocho wrote:
HELLO EVERYONE!!! If we can put preference aside for the moment,Would you all say that this blackface is of equal or better quality than the VOX AC15 HANDWIRED HERITAGE AMP that I have? Im new to tube amps, and IM just curious to what the opinion of some of u is about that. ONE thing I dislike about the VOX, is that chimy bright tone yuk :? AND the fact there is no reverb , But hey what am Idoing this a fender chat room not VOX !!! :? :oops: I think I can really get some great guitar tones workin with these 2 amps together :idea: :idea: .Any of you have a blackface pro reverb? thanks again :lol: out!!


You purchased an amp with no reverb and complain that it doesn't have reverb??? :roll:

You don't like that your VOX amp sounds bright and chimey??? :roll:

Did you test out the amp in the shop before you bought it?


Definitely a major "WTF" moment.

:mrgreen:

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If I'm following this correctly(?) Koocho, you're thinking about adding a Pro Reverb to your Vox 15 set-up. Seems like the best of both camps to me. Don't know how much breakin time your Vox has on it. But any initial harshness should give way to some hot in-your-face tones. The tube choice for the Vox would be a tone maker's concern. I've heard a Matchless DC30 with a '66 Pro Reverb in unison. It was undeniably fantastic ! But I had to step out of the studio, after a few minutes, to preserve my hearing. Talk about a sound stage spread. Good Luck ! Art

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Post subject: Re: VINTAGE 1967 PRO REVERB BLACKFACE VS VOX HERITAGE AC15 H
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:14 am
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Retroverbial wrote:
Minoan wrote:
koocho wrote:
HELLO EVERYONE!!! If we can put preference aside for the moment,Would you all say that this blackface is of equal or better quality than the VOX AC15 HANDWIRED HERITAGE AMP that I have? Im new to tube amps, and IM just curious to what the opinion of some of u is about that. ONE thing I dislike about the VOX, is that chimy bright tone yuk :? AND the fact there is no reverb , But hey what am Idoing this a fender chat room not VOX !!! :? :oops: I think I can really get some great guitar tones workin with these 2 amps together :idea: :idea: .Any of you have a blackface pro reverb? thanks again :lol: out!!


You purchased an amp with no reverb and complain that it doesn't have reverb??? :roll:

You don't like that your VOX amp sounds bright and chimey??? :roll:

Did you test out the amp in the shop before you bought it?


Definitely a major "WTF" moment.

:mrgreen:

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HEY NO I didnt mean to complain I REALLY LIKE IT!!!I wasplanning and I DID BUY A REVERB PEDAL (BOSS 63 REVERB PEDAL FRV-1) I BELIEVE) (THAT PEDAL IS OKAY ITS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DIAL UP A GREAT CONSTANT REVERB TONE) Im sure there are better but its a pain to search for one I LIKE) Thats why I BOUGHT THIS AMP WITHOUT REVERB , I JAMMED ON THE VOX AC15 IN A MUSIC STORE, without my guitar 10 min one day 10 min another day, cmon only after youve owned something for a while is when u see things you dont like about your purchase. I CAN EASILY DIAL UP TONES THAT ARENT BRIGHT AND CHIMEY ON THIS AMP, IM merely stating that these are the things iI DISLIKE about that amp (bright and chimy sometimes is cool just not all the time) (for me)


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Post subject: Re: VINTAGE 1967 PRO REVERB BLACKFACE VS VOX HERITAGE AC15 H
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:17 am
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Retroverbial wrote:
Minoan wrote:
koocho wrote:
HELLO EVERYONE!!! If we can put preference aside for the moment,Would you all say that this blackface is of equal or better quality than the VOX AC15 HANDWIRED HERITAGE AMP that I have? Im new to tube amps, and IM just curious to what the opinion of some of u is about that. ONE thing I dislike about the VOX, is that chimy bright tone yuk :? AND the fact there is no reverb , But hey what am Idoing this a fender chat room not VOX !!! :? :oops: I think I can really get some great guitar tones workin with these 2 amps together :idea: :idea: .Any of you have a blackface pro reverb? thanks again :lol: out!!


You purchased an amp with no reverb and complain that it doesn't have reverb??? :roll:

You don't like that your VOX amp sounds bright and chimey??? :roll:

Did you test out the amp in the shop before you bought it?


Definitely a major "WTF" moment.

:mrgreen:

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HEY NO I didnt mean to complain I REALLY LIKE IT!!!I wasplanning and I DID BUY A REVERB PEDAL (BOSS 63 REVERB PEDAL FRV-1) I BELIEVE) (THAT PEDAL IS OKAY ITS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DIAL UP A GREAT CONSTANT REVERB TONE) Im sure there are better but its a pain to search for one I LIKE) Thats why I BOUGHT THIS AMP WITHOUT REVERB , I JAMMED ON THE VOX AC15 IN A MUSIC STORE, without my guitar 10 min one day 10 min another day, cmon only after youve owned something for a while is when u see things you dont like about your purchase. I CAN EASILY DIAL UP TONES THAT ARENT BRIGHT AND CHIMEY ON THIS AMP, IM merely stating that these are the things iI DISLIKE about that amp (bright and chimy sometimes is cool just not all the time) (for me)


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Post subject: Re: VINTAGE 1967 PRO REVERB BLACKFACE VS VOX HERITAGE AC15 H
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:26 am
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koocho wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:
Minoan wrote:
koocho wrote:
HELLO EVERYONE!!! If we can put preference aside for the moment,Would you all say that this blackface is of equal or better quality than the VOX AC15 HANDWIRED HERITAGE AMP that I have? Im new to tube amps, and IM just curious to what the opinion of some of u is about that. ONE thing I dislike about the VOX, is that chimy bright tone yuk :? AND the fact there is no reverb , But hey what am Idoing this a fender chat room not VOX !!! :? :oops: I think I can really get some great guitar tones workin with these 2 amps together :idea: :idea: .Any of you have a blackface pro reverb? thanks again :lol: out!!


You purchased an amp with no reverb and complain that it doesn't have reverb??? :roll:

You don't like that your VOX amp sounds bright and chimey??? :roll:

Did you test out the amp in the shop before you bought it?
WOW THAT SA MAJOR WHAT THE F --- MOMENT!!!! HOLY IM BUYING A BLACKFACE CAUSE IM REALIZING MY VOX AC15 CANT DO IT ALL!!! HOLY!!!LET EVERYBODY SEE THIS I CANT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT CAPTAIN!!! I WILL PROBABLY BUY A DELUXE REVERB CAUSE I WILL COMPLAIN THAT MY PRO REVERB IS TOO LOUD FOR MY HOUSE WOW WHAT THE F---

Definitely a major "WTF" moment.

:mrgreen:

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HEY NO I didnt mean to complain I REALLY LIKE IT!!!I wasplanning and I DID BUY A REVERB PEDAL (BOSS 63 REVERB PEDAL FRV-1) I BELIEVE) (THAT PEDAL IS OKAY ITS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DIAL UP A GREAT CONSTANT REVERB TONE) Im sure there are better but its a pain to search for one I LIKE) Thats why I BOUGHT THIS AMP WITHOUT REVERB , I JAMMED ON THE VOX AC15 IN A MUSIC STORE, without my guitar 10 min one day 10 min another day, cmon only after youve owned something for a while is when u see things you dont like about your purchase. I CAN EASILY DIAL UP TONES THAT ARENT BRIGHT AND CHIMEY ON THIS AMP, IM merely stating that these are the things iI DISLIKE about that amp (bright and chimy sometimes is cool just not all the time) (for me)


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Post subject: Re: VINTAGE 1967 PRO REVERB BLACKFACE VS VOX HERITAGE AC15 H
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:43 am
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koocho wrote:
koocho wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:
Minoan wrote:
koocho wrote:
HELLO EVERYONE!!! If we can put preference aside for the moment,Would you all say that this blackface is of equal or better quality than the VOX AC15 HANDWIRED HERITAGE AMP that I have? Im new to tube amps, and IM just curious to what the opinion of some of u is about that. ONE thing I dislike about the VOX, is that chimy bright tone yuk :? AND the fact there is no reverb , But hey what am Idoing this a fender chat room not VOX !!! :? :oops: I think I can really get some great guitar tones workin with these 2 amps together :idea: :idea: .Any of you have a blackface pro reverb? thanks again :lol: out!!


You purchased an amp with no reverb and complain that it doesn't have reverb??? :roll:

You don't like that your VOX amp sounds bright and chimey??? :roll:

Did you test out the amp in the shop before you bought it?
WOW !!!!THAT SA MAJOR WHAT THE F --- MOMENT!!!! HOLY IM BUYING A BLACKFACE CAUSE IM REALIZING MY VOX AC15 CANT DO IT ALL!!! HOLY!!!LET EVERYBODY SEE THIS I CANT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT CAPTAIN!!! I WILL PROBABLY BUY A DELUXE REVERB NEXT CAUSE I WILL COMPLAIN THAT MY PRO REVERB IS TOO LOUD FOR MY HOUSE EVEN THOUGH I NEW IT WAS 40 WATTS SO IM THINKING INEED SOMETHING SMALLER LIKE A DELUXE ,BUT WAIT!!! DIDNT I KNOW THE PROWAS 40 WATTS? WTF YES I DID!!! THOUGHT IT WOULDNT BE AN ISSUE BUTIT IS !!!WTF!!! OH MY GOD !!!!WTF IS WRONG WITH ME? HELP!!!

Definitely a major "WTF" moment.

:mrgreen:

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HEY NO I didnt mean to complain I REALLY LIKE IT!!!I wasplanning and I DID BUY A REVERB PEDAL (BOSS 63 REVERB PEDAL FRV-1) I BELIEVE) (THAT PEDAL IS OKAY ITS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DIAL UP A GREAT CONSTANT REVERB TONE) Im sure there are better but its a pain to search for one I LIKE) Thats why I BOUGHT THIS AMP WITHOUT REVERB , I JAMMED ON THE VOX AC15 IN A MUSIC STORE, without my guitar 10 min one day 10 min another day, cmon only after youve owned something for a while is when u see things you dont like about your purchase. I CAN EASILY DIAL UP TONES THAT ARENT BRIGHT AND CHIMEY ON THIS AMP, IM merely stating that these are the things iI DISLIKE about that amp (bright and chimy sometimes is cool just not all the time) (for me)


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Post subject: Re: VINTAGE 1967 PRO REVERB BLACKFACE VS VOX HERITAGE AC15 H
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:03 am
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koocho wrote:
koocho wrote:
koocho wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:
Minoan wrote:
koocho wrote:
HELLO EVERYONE!!! If we can put preference aside for the moment,Would you all say that this blackface is of equal or better quality than the VOX AC15 HANDWIRED HERITAGE AMP that I have? Im new to tube amps, and IM just curious to what the opinion of some of u is about that. ONE thing I dislike about the VOX, is that chimy bright tone yuk :? AND the fact there is no reverb , But hey what am Idoing this a fender chat room not VOX !!! :? :oops: I think I can really get some great guitar tones workin with these 2 amps together :idea: :idea: .Any of you have a blackface pro reverb? thanks again :lol: out!!


You purchased an amp with no reverb and complain that it doesn't have reverb??? :roll:

You don't like that your VOX amp sounds bright and chimey??? :roll:

Did you test out the amp in the shop before you bought it?
WOW !!!!THAT SA MAJOR WHAT THE F --- MOMENT!!!! HOLY IM BUYING A BLACKFACE CAUSE IM REALIZING MY VOX AC15 CANT DO IT ALL!!! HOLY!!!LET EVERYBODY SEE THIS I CANT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT CAPTAIN!!! I WILL PROBABLY BUY A DELUXE REVERB NEXT CAUSE I WILL COMPLAIN THAT MY PRO REVERB IS TOO LOUD FOR MY HOUSE EVEN THOUGH I NEW IT WAS 40 WATTS SO IM THINKING INEED SOMETHING SMALLER LIKE A DELUXE ,BUT WAIT!!! DIDNT I KNOW THE PROWAS 40 WATTS? WTF YES I DID!!! THOUGHT IT WOULDNT BE AN ISSUE BUTIT IS !!!WTF!!! OH MY GOD !!!!WTF IS WRONG WITH ME? HELP!I WILL SAY THIS SLOWELY FOR YOU !!!I LOVED THE VOX BUT AT THE TIME I PREFERED REVERB. IT DIDNT HAVE REVERB BUT IT WAS SUCH A GREAT DEAL AND GREAT AMP THAT I FIGURED I WOULD JUST BUY A REVERB PEDAL AND WHENI FEEL A CERTAIN DIALED UP TONE IS TOO CHIMEY(WHICH VOX IS FAMOUS FOR) I WILL DIAL IN SOMETHING WITHOUT SO MUCH BRIGHT AND CHIME, WHICH I DID AND STILL DO . OK CAPTAIN UNDERSTAND ITS VERY SIMPLE. I WILL LET YOU NOW RESUME SURFING THIS CHAT ROOM FOR WTF THREA!DS.

Definitely a major "WTF" moment.

:mrgreen:

Arjay
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HEY NO I didnt mean to complain I REALLY LIKE IT!!!I wasplanning and I DID BUY A REVERB PEDAL (BOSS 63 REVERB PEDAL FRV-1) I BELIEVE) (THAT PEDAL IS OKAY ITS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DIAL UP A GREAT CONSTANT REVERB TONE) Im sure there are better but its a pain to search for one I LIKE) Thats why I BOUGHT THIS AMP WITHOUT REVERB , I JAMMED ON THE VOX AC15 IN A MUSIC STORE, without my guitar 10 min one day 10 min another day, cmon only after youve owned something for a while is when u see things you dont like about your purchase. I CAN EASILY DIAL UP TONES THAT ARENT BRIGHT AND CHIMEY ON THIS AMP, IM merely stating that these are the things iI DISLIKE about that amp (bright and chimy sometimes is cool just not all the time) (for me)
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Post subject: Re: VINTAGE 1967 PRO REVERB BLACKFACE VS VOX HERITAGE AC15 H
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:37 am
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koocho wrote:
koocho wrote:
koocho wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:
Minoan wrote:
koocho wrote:
HELLO EVERYONE!!! If we can put preference aside for the moment,Would you all say that this blackface is of equal or better quality than the VOX AC15 HANDWIRED HERITAGE AMP that I have? Im new to tube amps, and IM just curious to what the opinion of some of u is about that. ONE thing I dislike about the VOX, is that chimy bright tone yuk :? AND the fact there is no reverb , But hey what am Idoing this a fender chat room not VOX !!! :? :oops: I think I can really get some great guitar tones workin with these 2 amps together :idea: :idea: .Any of you have a blackface pro reverb? thanks again :lol: out!!


You purchased an amp with no reverb and complain that it doesn't have reverb??? :roll:

You don't like that your VOX amp sounds bright and chimey??? :roll:

Did you test out the amp in the shop before you bought it?
WOW !!!!THAT SA MAJOR WHAT THE F --- MOMENT!!!! HOLY IM BUYING A BLACKFACE CAUSE IM REALIZING MY VOX AC15 CANT DO IT ALL!!! HOLY!!!LET EVERYBODY SEE THIS I CANT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT CAPTAIN!!! I WILL PROBABLY BUY A DELUXE REVERB NEXT CAUSE I WILL COMPLAIN THAT MY PRO REVERB IS TOO LOUD FOR MY HOUSE EVEN THOUGH I NEW IT WAS 40 WATTS SO IM THINKING INEED SOMETHING SMALLER LIKE A DELUXE ,BUT WAIT!!! DIDNT I KNOW THE PROWAS 40 WATTS? WTF YES I DID!!! THOUGHT IT WOULDNT BE AN ISSUE BUTIT IS !!!WTF!!! OH MY GOD !!!!WTF IS WRONG WITH ME? HELP!I WILL SAY THIS SLOWELY FOR YOU !!!I LOVED THE VOX BUT AT THE TIME I PREFERED REVERB. IT DIDNT HAVE REVERB BUT IT WAS SUCH A GREAT DEAL AND GREAT AMP THAT I FIGURED I WOULD JUST BUY A REVERB PEDAL AND WHENI FEEL A CERTAIN DIALED UP TONE IS TOO CHIMEY(WHICH VOX IS FAMOUS FOR) I WILL DIAL IN SOMETHING WITHOUT SO MUCH BRIGHT AND CHIME, WHICH I DID AND STILL DO . OK I UNDERSTAND ITS VERY SIMPLE. I WILL LET YOU NOW RESUME SURFING THIS CHAT ROOM FOR WTF THREA!DS.

Definitely a major "WTF" moment.

:mrgreen:

Arjay
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HEY NO I didnt mean to complain I REALLY LIKE IT!!!I wasplanning and I DID BUY A REVERB PEDAL (BOSS 63 REVERB PEDAL FRV-1) I BELIEVE) (THAT PEDAL IS OKAY ITS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO DIAL UP A GREAT CONSTANT REVERB TONE) Im sure there are better but its a pain to search for one I LIKE) Thats why I BOUGHT THIS AMP WITHOUT REVERB , I JAMMED ON THE VOX AC15 IN A MUSIC STORE, without my guitar 10 min one day 10 min another day, cmon only after youve owned something for a while is when u see things you dont like about your purchase. I CAN EASILY DIAL UP TONES THAT ARENT BRIGHT AND CHIMEY ON THIS AMP, IM merely stating that these are the things iI DISLIKE about that amp (bright and chimy sometimes is cool just not all the time) (for me)
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