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Post subject: slip, slide,& greasy
Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:23 pm
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Haven't picked up the slide for a while, but it's sounding pretty sweet with a P90 fitted, '89 ash Fernandes Tele(solid maple neck-no finger board) through the old Band Master. Used this guitar quite a bit with a Matchless. Just wondering what combinations, other folks are using? Simpleman got me thinkin' about getting the slide out, with the "Skydog-Clapton" Layla thread. Thanks man ! I go straight into the amp(or a reverb unit) with a coricidin bottle or glass slide, but I have a couple of conduit slides of different lenghts that sometimes get used. What do you folks use ? Art

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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:05 am
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I use a generic glass slide though I'm afraid my skills are rather rudimentary. I have my '57 LP Jr configured with heavier-gauge strings, raised action, and an open D tuning for some specific songs. That 50+ year-old P90 just sounds so damn F A T!

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I've been using a piece of copper pipe (Type L) usually on ring finger. Set my Tele to high action. Play through BF TR or Super Reverb. One day maybe get a lap steel. (Just dropping names here).... I'm pretty good friend of Peter Lindley, David's bro. So have seen David and Sneaky Pete in studio sessions. Love to able to play a Pedal Steel. But forget it, regular 6-string ax gets the best of me, at times.


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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:20 am
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Wow a '57 Arjay ! Mine is just an early 90's Seymour Duncan P90, but this piece of wood is very good. Haven't run across a genuine Tele I'd trade it for. Beemer, that's amazing ! I've always been a David Lindley fan. Can't remember the name of that amp bulder, whose amps he used on a recent tour with Jackson Browne, but they were like 40watt single 12 or 15 amps, with the" starliner" option. But yeah, caught some of those clips off "You Tube". I also investigated the pedal steel avenue, earlier this year. A whole other ball of wax ! Art

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:26 am
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I use glass and ceramic (Joe Perry) slides mostly on my Gibson L.P special with P90's. Hopefully I'll get good enough, to break it out at a gig sometime. I like D and G open tunings. Also would like to play in standard tuning. :)

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:09 am
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I've been slidin' since the early '70s after hearing what Duane could do.
Naturally after I found out what he used for a slide I went out and got a Coricidin bottle,then when I found out they were starting to go to plastic bottles I bought several,I still have about 6 left after giving a few to my sons and friends,the rest reside in the gun safe,in a box. :)
I still use the Coricidin bottle because it sounds good,and lately I've tried Rocky Mountain ceramic slides,they have a cool tone.


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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:01 am
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I use either my 63 Supro Martinique or my POS Stinger guitar that I modded for slide for electric. For acoustic I have a cheap resonator guitar. I'll slide on anything. I plan on building an electric cigar box guitar pretty soon. For a slide I use a Mudslide. It has a sound between glass and metal and is made from porcelain and is glazed. Sweat wicks away from my finger and it just sounds great. I also have a bunch of bottlenecks that I cut with a ceramic tile saw. Fun stuff. I usually play in either open D,G or E. A's fun but really hard on a guitar.

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I didn't take up slide guitar until after I joined a Country band in the mid 70's, they wanted me to play Pedal Steel guitar on some songs. So I was learning the pedals and how to play chords and leads in E9th Chromatic for about a year, mostly without any instruction and by ear. Some Dobro players showed me some licks and tunings that helped for regular guitar but it's different on a Pedal Steel, those guys are amazing at what they can do. When I left the band about a year1 1/2 later, I left the Pedal Steel with the Band. Didn't play much slide for several years since I was concentrating on Jazz improv.

When I was hired by another Country Band in the 90's and had to play Slide on some of their Modern Country, I was glad I had learned some old tricks from the Dobro Boys. I used an SG with just a tad of slap back echo from a MXR delay to fatten things up, through my Twin Reverb and sometimes a hint of OD on some songs. I also put a Bisgy Palm Pedal on the SG so I can get some good pedal effects. IMHO this is the best of both worlds.

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:16 pm
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Very cool ! Didn't know all you guys played slide. Live and Learn ! Johnny, your SG is really nice, bet you get some sweet sounds with that Bigsby set-up. Know what you mean about those dobro players, we have one in our bluegrass-gospel group. And those LP Jrs, man you guys got it going on ! I worked with standard tuning, because the tele also had to serve me for a Stone's type of sound. On another note, I was sorry to hear about the passing of Solomon Burke, a real Soul Man. Art

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Well like I said, my slide work is pretty rudimentary. That SG of Johnny Z's definitely looks like it's built for some serious work -- bet it sounds swell too. I'm in awe of anyone who can master such gadgetry like that. I remember trying out a B-bender Tele once. The demo lasted about two minutes......too much for me to think about "on the fly". I'm guessing it's an acquired talent.

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Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 5:38 am
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All my early slide work was on a Les Paul naturally into Marshalls,I settled on an early Marshall 50w 2x12 combo that had that bluesbreaker sound but I had to go and sell it to buy a Mesa Boogie :cry: man was that a sad mistake!!!
Anyway,I've progressed with my playing over the years where I can play slide on my regular Strat with 10s and sound pretty decent...getting the right light touch so you're not banging against the frets is the hardest thing to do when you don't have a high action and heavy strings.
I don't use a pick on slide,never have,it isolates you from the instrument in a way since your finger is in the slide and the pick is hitting the string....Dickey Betts said that one time and I feel the same way....it just doesn't work for me...and Duane didn't use a pick either from everything I've heard.
Learning to mute the notes you don't want to ring out is essential,along with all the extra noise you get.....when I was first learning it sounded like somebody was killing a cat....but then somwhere it got better,I don't play enough slide,but have settled on open E and standard for electric,along with a Dm I heard Sonny Landreth talking about,he does that in the song "Congo Square" and a couple of others...it has that swampy,voodoo feel to it.
On acoustic open G sounds good,if you've ever heard Gregg Allman do an acoustic version of "Come and Go Blues",on a Martin...well the guy can play,no doubt....he stayed with a friend of mine for awhile many years ago and my buddy said it was really cool to hear him in a closed room,alone playing acoustic guitar,to nobody but himself.....but I digress. :)


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I used to detune my high "E" to "D" for some songs and I often changed tunings, such as DADGAD. I used my little finger for the slide giving me the ability to chord and play both slide and chords and even mix a slide lead with a finger lead, works very good for double stops and skipping strings while finger picking.


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Supro, you got me on both of those guitars. Is the Martinique a semi-hollow body with lip stick pups ? And the POS doesn't stand for Pacific Off Shore guitars, I guess. Those Mudslides, are they very thick ? Tried cutting some bottle necks, when I was in my late 20's. Three guys fartin' around in the workshop with a hand-held glass cutter. Needless to say, we did a great job of emptying those bottles, but realized glass cutting wasn't up our alley. Art

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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 5:38 am
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I bought a couple of bottles of wine just for the necks not long ago to try to make slides...I've never done that.
I bought a diamond wheel for the Dremal tool to try,I saw a guy on youtube doing it....that reminds me,I need to finish that wine. :)


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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:02 pm
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Supro, you got me on both of those guitars. Is the Martinique a semi-hollow body with lip stick pups ? And the POS doesn't stand for Pacific Off Shore guitars, I guess. Those Mudslides, are they very thick ? Tried cutting some bottle necks, when I was in my late 20's. Three guys fartin' around in the workshop with a hand-held glass cutter. Needless to say, we did a great job of emptying those bottles, but realized glass cutting wasn't up our alley. Art

Hi Art,
Here's a link to one.
http://www.gbase.com/gear/supro-martini ... 962-white#

Mine's a little older ans has white trim on the body halves instead of black and mine doesn't have a Bigsby. Mine actually dates to late 61 early 62. I got it in 64 and was told by the guy my father bought it from that it was a 63. The guitar is made of Resoglass which is fiberglass. It actually has 3 pickups on is in the bridge and can blend with the neck pickup. The pickups are humbucking style. The guitar actually sounds quite good. The pickup in the bridge is kind of like some sort of contact/piezo pickup. Not my favorite tone but usable with a good amp. It's hard to describe. I still play and gig with it. It also has a zero fret. The intonation is perfect and the neck has no adjustable truss rod. It's a 3 bolt neck that's is almost like a tilt neck. It's very cool.

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