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Post subject: two reverb tanks?
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:12 pm
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so i was thinking about building an outboard reverb unit to run my amps through. would it be possible to link two tanks together and if so what would be the benefit? Or better yet add a switch to choose one or two? any thoughts?


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It's an interesting idea but it seems like a lot of work. If more reverb than your current tank can provide is what you are after then I suggest simply installing an inline FX loop on the return side of the tank and inserting a compressor pedal. You'll get a much greater reverb effect. Plus it's a pedal so it can easily be switch in or out like you were describing. If you're not handy with wiring and soldering etc. I'm sure an amp tech could install the circuit in very little time. It's just a matter of breaking the circuit and wiring in some jacks. If you are concerned about cutting the stock tank cable buy an aftermarket cable and cut that.

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Not sure I understand what you're considering. If you're talking about two tanks running in parallel, like running a stand alone reverb unit in front of your Twin Reverb, then that should be quite the outrageous spaced-out sound. If you're talking about running two tanks in series, powered by one unit, then I think you're getting into the delay world. I remember an article in Tone Quest that interviewed Neil Young's tech, and apparently they ran a super long spring set-up that ran from the stage, through the floor and down to the level below the stage. I guess that it was so long, that it could not take the vibrations on the stage. And there were the sessions with Chet Atkins(if memory serves me) that they ran the spring through a water tank behind the studio. Arjay, maybe you can correct me on this ? It was either Memphis or Nashville and Roy Orbison was recording. Any way yeah, you can mess with the reverb effect untill it oscillates the signal into oblivion. I built the Weber 5G15, with my hybrid ground layout. It's dead quiet and sounds just great. If it was in front of a Twin Reverb, the results should take the signal up to the stratosphere. Art

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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:14 am
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I don't know, Art. It all sounds vewy vewy scwewy to me.

Like Dick Dale hanging his 6G15 from the rafters via "fly-wire".

Purpose?

Beats the chit outta me!

Why not just get an Echo Plex and be done with it?

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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:13 am
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i dont mind the work, and i love a challenge. maybe switch between 1 and 2 and series/parallel.

This whole idea started because my reverb tank in my twin is busted and i like the idea of an outboard.


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Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:11 pm
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so i drew up a schematic that i think would work, kinda. as long as the grounds are where i think they are. any corrections, or am i good to go. please dont tel me this is wasting time, i think itd be cool. nless there would be little to no sound difference. which i find hard to believe. anyway, please lemme know. all hand drawn in like 3 minutes, sorry.


http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz14 ... schem2.jpg


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I think you need a disgrontificator between the tanks for buffering and impedance matching.

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Retroverbial wrote:
I think you need a disgrontificator between the tanks for buffering and impedance matching.

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okay, what is one of those?


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Make_Mine_Veal wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:
I think you need a disgrontificator between the tanks for buffering and impedance matching.

Arjay


okay, what is one of those?


This short clip will make everything perfectly clear......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSO0imuaXp8

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Retroverbial wrote:
Make_Mine_Veal wrote:
Retroverbial wrote:
I think you need a disgrontificator between the tanks for buffering and impedance matching.

Arjay


okay, what is one of those?


This short clip will make everything perfectly clear......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSO0imuaXp8

:mrgreen:

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are you serious? if so, how do i get one?


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"Disgronificator" is a word used by Rush Limbaugh in a story he tells of a car repair shop convincing customers to replace their disgronificators. The customers shell out cash for a non-existent auto part. A disgronificator does the same thing as chrome reverse threads on the steering wheel, racing air in the tires and piston return springs.

You are being teased.

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Oops, I guess I missed seeing the video post.

OK never mind.

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okay, okay. im kind of a simpleton when it comes to this kind of thing. but will my schematic work?


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Doubtful. Whether the tanks are linked in parallel or series, you'll be altering the impedance that the amp's driver and recovery stages want to "see" to properly perform their roles. You can try it (no harm should result) but I'm guessing that you'll either have a massively overloaded-and-distorted signal or conversely no reverb at all.

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Retroverbial wrote:
Doubtful. Whether the tanks are linked in parallel or series, you'll be altering the impedance that the amp's driver and recovery stages want to "see" to properly perform their roles. You can try it (no harm should result) but I'm guessing that you'll either have a massively overloaded-and-distorted signal or conversely no reverb at all.

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so basicaly if i want a standalone tank to be special i should just find a wicked cool kick $@! tank. nit mess with schematics and such.


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