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Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:00 pm
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Rebelsoul wrote:
We do need a geezer section...I feel like people think we're crazy when we talk about tubes and amps elsewhere...even though they will go buy a new "tube"amp to geta a tone they're chasing,but with all the other bells and whistles...
speaking of Bogen PA's,I read one time where Dickey Betts said the best slide tone he ever got was with an old Bogen amp and a cheap little playback speaker...the one with a musical note on front :lol: it was at a studio somewhere and when he went looking to get one for himself,he found an old Bogen and cheapest speakers he could find but couldn't duplicate the tone...it was that one combination.


Yep, there's no ingenuity anymore. I remember hooking a cheesy plywood "Spanish" guitar with a cheap magnetic pickup up to our Emerson tube powered "HiFi" when I was all of 13 years old. Now, I have some new guy up my arse on the forum telling me I'm all wrong when I bias an amp because I'm a couple of Mv out of spec because I like the way my amp sounds. Your tubes will make your amp sound like arse and last forever if you bias them cold. Here's a video on it from another geezer guy.
http://www.eurotubes.com/euro-Fender-HRDV.htm

I've been breaking rules since I was a kid plugging my guitar into a Wollensack tube amped reel to reel and using a second Lafayette reel to reel to make echo noises with a piece of spliced quarter inch recording tape. I eventually took the amp out of the Wollensack and had it running a 6x9" car speaker. I thought I was the mutts nuts LOL.

I still mess with stuff. Most of my pedals are messed with a little too. :D

I hate text book guys up my arse spreading gloom and doom, telling me how wrong I am and taking half the shat I spew out of context. My ears ring a little, but I still know what I like.

Power To The Geezers!!!!!

That Jazzmaster Ultra Light is a nice sounding SS amp. I don't care much for the distortion on it, but the clean is nice.

Shoot man, now I'm letting out all my Geezer secrets. I think we need a secret sign or something. :wink:

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Yeah ! Where do I send my app for the Geezer Forum ? Art

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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:05 am
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I blew up my wife's hi-fi by playing a Les Paul Custom plugged into it....the jack said "guitar"!
thinking back....I had a killer guitar and had blown the speaker in a Tweed Champ...so the stereo was just sitting there....and it had 2 speakers! :P
Geezers,been 'round the block and tore up everything and patched it back up.
I still have to look inside everything as soon as I get it home.


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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:25 am
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Rebelsoul wrote:
I blew up my wife's hi-fi by playing a Les Paul Custom plugged into it....the jack said "guitar"!
thinking back....I had a killer guitar and had blown the speaker in a Tweed Champ...so the stereo was just sitting there....and it had 2 speakers! :P
Geezers,been 'round the block and tore up everything and patched it back up.
I still have to look inside everything as soon as I get it home.


Me too. I can't leave anything alone. I did that when the Egnater 20 was new. I only played it for a couple of minutes then opened it up to look around and check the bias. LOL I was pleasantly surprised with the quality of the construction.

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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:13 pm
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Well I guess I too am a geezer, and after the Shure vocalmasters, and Peavey and Kustom 4-12 dual column pa's, which all were mush out in the audience, I discovered piezo horns. Made a box, (mid 70's) with 12 horns, wired 6 to each channel, by todays standards it was pretty spikey, but there was some definition to the vocals, and all the audiences noticed. My little sister in law has a recent practice size PA, 10's and a horn, sounds great. Why did it take so long to meld hi-fi, and pa gear?


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Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:04 pm
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I was just thinking about the 6-fader Altec mixer I had back in the day. No FX, mono, just some mic inputs and a line out to the power amp. My little Alesis Studio 12R that I use for drum mixdowns is many times the mixer. Time passes, don't it?

Of course, I also remember using the Silvertone 1484 for the PA! Hi-Z mics (when was the last time you saw a mic cable with a phone plug?) and everybody but the bass went through that 40W head. The bass had his own Yamaha solid state head and a home-made 1x15 cab....

I'd be afraid to plug some of that stuff in, these days.

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Bill Moore wrote:
Well I guess I too am a geezer, and after the Shure vocalmasters, and Peavey and Kustom 4-12 dual column pa's, which all were mush out in the audience, I discovered piezo horns. Made a box, (mid 70's) with 12 horns, wired 6 to each channel, by todays standards it was pretty spikey, but there was some definition to the vocals, and all the audiences noticed. My little sister in law has a recent practice size PA, 10's and a horn, sounds great. Why did it take so long to meld hi-fi, and pa gear?


Hey Bill, talk about mush, we used to run a Univox EC-80 echo with the Vocalmaster and thought it sounded great. We were 18 years old at the time though.LOL

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I saw Steppenwolf at the Avalon sometime in '68 and they also used those Ric Transonics. They sounded pretty good as I recollect. I think Spirit was the opening act.

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i saw steppenwolf in 68 myself. i forgot about those ric amps. there's a trip down memory lane


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I found a clip of one, the quality is not so good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR0dUdpge1I


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I have one of the Pro Reverb models and love the hell out of it. I'd really like to find a couple of the others if I could pick them up cheap enough. Found mine in a pawnshop I frequented. It had been there as long as I could remember and one day they were in the mood to take alot less for it than they had been asking.


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Post subject: Re: Vintage Fender Solid State amps-where did they go?
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 1:58 pm
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I have one and it still works! Got it off some guy for 150 bucks, didn't know it was so old ....I thought it was odd that you have to ground the amp so you don't get shocked lol
I wonder what it would be worth now


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Post subject: Re: Vintage Fender Solid State amps-where did they go?
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:11 pm
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They pop up occasionally on Ebay. I'm not sure if anybody actually buys them though.

According to Bob Rissi (one of that amp line's chief designers) the basic architecture was sound -- the amps fell on their collective faces due to shoddy and haphazard production methods (sound familiar?). If one were so inclined to go completely through the chassis and fix the myriad built-in problems, they're actually not bad sounding amps -- very clean, very powerful. We had one of the first solid-state Fender PA's (same 1967 technology) and it was light years ahead of Shure's "Vocal Masher". We never had a problem with it for the five years we owned it.

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Post subject: Re: Vintage Fender Solid State amps-where did they go?
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:15 pm
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I'll need a Geezer application too!!


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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:39 pm
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Anybody remember the old AKG D222 sound rocket mics? And the green Shure mixers? Ahhhh, the good old days.

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I still use an old AKG D1000-E as an instrument mic. Much more transparent than the SM57 it replaced.

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