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Post subject: how to safely take the silver face off a Silverface?
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:39 pm
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Princeton Reverb, 1973 I think

I want to see if the speaker has a rip...


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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 1:34 pm
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Hey,
I think there are screws inside the amp cab. Did you just get this amp?
If you did it may have old filter caps and stuff if it has'nt been used in a while. Thats a cool amp you might want to have a tech look at it.

Just Saying: Raggs

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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 2:17 pm
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speaker is installed from the back, so one way is just undo the nuts and take it out, after unplugging and removing the tubes.

The grille may have just velcro holding it on; not sure how my '71 Princeton's is held on but not wanting to try and rip it off right now..

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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:45 am
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Bandmasters are piggyback heads, not combo amplifiers.

From my understanding, it's a Bandmaster head professionally converted to a combo amp.

With Fender Blonde, Brown, Black and Silverface amps, everything is possible. We are even able convert a Twin Reverb combo into a piggyback head, as shown below:

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Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:16 am
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chromeface wrote:
Bandmasters are piggyback heads, not combo amplifiers.

From my understanding, it's a Bandmaster head professionally converted to a combo amp.


Newellamps.com made the custom cab. Always fun to perplex people when they see a 1965 Bandmaster 2x12 combo...

Still have the head cab, and it can easily be put back that way, but since it's mine, it's the way I've decided to have it.

Nice conversion - typically most of the ones I've seen from folks aren't nearly as clean, but that's why Newell, Mojotone, etc. sell great replacement cabs so that the original stays that way.

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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:03 pm
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Bandmasters and Bassmen were probably the most popular piggyback heads Fender has ever produced.

As a reply, I'll post a photo of a silverfaced 1969 Bassman head professionally converted in the same way you've done with the blackface 1965 Bandmaster.


Have fun!

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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:43 pm
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Very nice! 1x12 or 1x15? I Like the tilt-back as well!

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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:11 am
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2x12.

Same dimensions as your Bandmaster combo.

BTW, this 50's Tele looks great with the Bigsby trem!


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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:03 am
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Got it - the angle of the photo for some reason made the amp look a little smaller, but then realized after your post their similar/same width.

The Tele looks great as well. Nice setup.

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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:01 am
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Did you plan to build also a silverfaced Bandmaster combo?


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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:02 pm
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chromeface wrote:
Bandmasters and Bassmen were probably the most popular piggyback heads Fender has ever produced.

As a reply, I'll post a photo of a silverfaced 1969 Bassman head professionally converted in the same way you've done with the blackface 1965 Bandmaster.


Have fun!

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That's a fine lookin' conversion, CF! I haven't buiilt a silverface combo like yours yet but I've collected enough drip-edge moulding pieces over the years (including the corners) that I may give it a go, as a 1 x 15 configuration...sort of a faux '68 silverface Vibroverb look.

Rawk on!

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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:18 pm
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Great looking conversions guys.Chromeface I have a 69 Bassman too, after seeing the beautiful job done on yours I'd almost consider selling my 68 2-15 Bassman cab and getting it done.The Bassman is an exceptional amp,I run mine through my 4-12 Marshall cab for guitar.

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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:47 pm
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The great thing is that these combo cabs aren't that expensive, and the conversion is totally reversible and shouldn't harm the value of your Bassman amp.

Bassman through a 4x12 Marshall - that's got to sound spectacular.

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There are 4 screws that hold the baffle in place from the rear of the cab. Remove the speaker wires and reverb wires and remove both back pannels and the chassis(4 screws on top of the amp} , make sure you got a good bit and an extension for the bit, careful not to strip those screw heads. Take out the whole baffle with grill and speaker, you must remove the staples that hold the grill in place, use a small screwdriver, the trim just comes off but will leave a small gap, now you can access the speaker. If you do all this then why not do a full service, filter caps, coupling caps, clean sockets and such, if you are not familiar with working on amps maybe find a good tech, however you must trust him to use quality parts and all, you can get all the parts from Antique Electronics.com, you can make this amp sound much better with proper service, good luck, Bubba


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There are 4 screws that hold the baffle in place from the rear of the cab. Remove the speaker wires and reverb wires and remove both back pannels and the chassis(4 screws on top of the amp} , make sure you got a good bit and an extension for the bit, careful not to strip those screw heads. Take out the whole baffle with grill and speaker, you must remove the staples that hold the grill in place, use a small screwdriver, the trim just comes off but will leave a small gap, now you can access the speaker. If you do all this then why not do a full service, filter caps, coupling caps, clean sockets and such, if you are not familiar with working on amps maybe find a good tech, however you must trust him to use quality parts and all, you can get all the parts from Antique Electronics.com, you can make this amp sound much better with proper service, good luck, Bubba


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