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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:27 am
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Wow...
25 years or more ago I was playing some SRV songs through a Les Paul and 50w Marshall 2x12....did I sound like him...no.
People need to realize you can take a song and do your own thing with it,like the big guys do,somebody mentioned "Little Wing",Clapton and Allman did that as a tribute to Hendrix while he was still alive (barely),they weren't trying to copy his version at all....is it better or worse?...does it matter?
There's no telling how many times I've played blues in a club and somebody yells out "Do some SRV",do I satisfy them?...no...because they want to hear someone imitate him,which I won't do.


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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:21 am
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You are right rebelsoul. I'm not a pro musician mostly do Jams and Bennefits. The crowd goes wild when they hear Pride & Joy every time seems like unless its terrible. But a seasoned Blues band or host of a Jam alot of them can't stand doing it cause they've do it so many times and it's never the way they would do it. Then when its all said and done the crowd roars and dances and everyones smilling when its over.

IMO Raggs


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Twinky_Bomb wrote:
More in likely I'm going to go with the deluxe 65 ri. It's a pretty resonable price for 1k. and I'm sure a vibroverb is over 2k..


I built a Brownface Vibroverb clone for about $800 so I don't think that you have to settle for a DRRI just because of price. That being said the DRRI is a great sounding amp.


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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:18 pm
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raggs wrote:
You are right rebelsoul. I'm not a pro musician mostly due Jams and Bennefits. The crowd goes wild when they hear Pride & Joy every time seems like unless its terrible. But a seasoned Blues band or host of a Jam alot of them can't stand doing it cause they've do it so many times and it's never the way they would do it. Then when its all said and done the crowd roars and dances and everyones smilling when its over.

IMO Raggs
One thing is certain,when you're getting paid for a gig you have to please the crowd if you can.
I absolutely hated to hear the dreaded "Free Bird!" call from the crowd,those solos are burned into people's memories and that is the only way they want to hear it.
But you can turn it up,get close and like you said,they love it.
Keep pickin' Raggs!


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I think the biggest part of his sound was using heavy gauge strings. I think I heard he used an .013 for an E string tuned down a 1/2 step? I am now using .011's after years of .010, .013, .017, .026, .036, .046 and I think it makes a huge difference.

If you can't make the bends with the heavy strings, you won't ever get that tone!

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SRV's sound/tone was in his attitude. He played the guitar very hard. Harder than most of us play. He did tune down a half step and used heavier gauge strings ( you need to when tuning down ). He also played frickin LOUD. And all his amps weren't stock anyway. Diaz modified them and the speakers were switched out to EV's or JBL's. Stevie also used a mute technique where he hit all the strings but muted them except the one or two he wanted to sound out. Plus, he used a down stroke mostly, with the up stroke across the strings as a muted rhythm. Of course, his technique was song dependent. Most of SRV's sound and style is in his picking technique, which was an extension of his hard hittin' attitude. A finesse player, he was not, although he did play quite articulate at times. As mentioned before, he used many amps, with the two modded Vibroverbs as a customary set-up. Dumble built him an amp as well. In the end, there will only by one SRV, like there will only be one EC, one Jeff Beck, one BB and so on. While I think it is a worthwhile endeavour to learn from our idols, copping their licks and sound ( isn't that what everyone does, starting out? ), it is much better to take that knowledge and meld it into something of your own.

As far as an amp, The DRRI is a good place to start, as would be the Egnater Rebel 20 or 30. Both amps have alot going for them, for new amps. A vintage amp will not de-value as much, if that matters to you.


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I have a friend from Texas who saw SRV in a small club in the early days,and even though he sounded great he said he had to leave because he was so loud....he said his ears had taken all they could.
In one of Gerald Weber's amp books he said at one place the soundman had Stevie lay his amp on the floor on it's back to deal with the loudness!


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I would go with a super reverb and If you can find a older TS 808 you should find a tone you like.


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I use my Fender Strat American Standard with ENGL Screamer 50 amp, and when I was playing "Lenny" I got very similar SRV tone.

I think it is not necessary to copy SRV in all his gear. More important to play soulful as he did.

Check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPezVtnEdIA


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I'd go with a used Deluxe Reverb Reissue. You'll thank me later. The lower end Fenders are not really built for the long haul. I have a Twin. It's Heavy and extremely loud. I can't even use it in smaller clubs. It's also one of the cleanest amps in existence. You'll go deaf before you get it to breakup.


Just curious I hear this from guys on these forums a lot and wonder HUH? I know tube amp dirt is great but NO One in the audience is going to know if its a pedal or natural distortion or care as long as it sounds good. Volume???? I played a Super Reverb for over 20 years and last I looked Fender amps still have a volume knob for small places just turn down and set any pedals accordingly. Right now I have a 100 watt Fender PA 100 and I play at home with it that volume knob works fine. I go out I crank it to the size of the place works just like my Super did with the volume knob. Not getting on any ones case but for years pickers adjusted their amps to the gig. Now days every one has to have a separate amp for each size of place from home to auditoriums so they can play them cranked. Seems Foolish to me since a large amp can be used to play anywhere just by adjusting the vol and tone and adding tastefully what effects you want to include if any.


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NO One in the audience is going to know if its a pedal or natural distortion or care as long as it sounds good.


A very valid point.

I have virtually every vintage Fender tube platform from 6 watts to 135 watts, though my primary "go-to" rig remains a '65 Twin Reverb with a Dual Showman extension cab. With my stompbox layout it affords sufficient volume and sonic flexibility for any live situation. However, for smaller gigs where I'm familiar with the venue and the room acoustics I'll opt for something in the 40- to 50-watt range. Intimate jams or studio work usually demand a much smaller amp, usually something between twelve to twenty-two watts. In every instance a good pedalboard setup makes all the difference.

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I've gotten to the point where depending on where I play I could cover it with either the BF Deluxe reverb or if I need more headroom the BF Pro Reverb to just plug straight in and go,no pedals...but yeah you could use one good amp like a Twin and handle everything,all us older guys have seen it and done it.


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You got a good selection there, RS. With a Pro Reverb and a Deluxe you can pretty much cover any territory.

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Rebelsoul wrote:
I've gotten to the point where depending on where I play I could cover it with either the BF Deluxe reverb or if I need more headroom the BF Pro Reverb to just plug straight in and go,no pedals...but yeah you could use one good amp like a Twin and handle everything,all us older guys have seen it and done it.



Back in the old days that's all we did and pretty much all we could afford. One guitar, one amp and it worked everywhere. :D In fact When I first started (late 60's ) more than one band I had seen besides us had one channel of the amp if you were lucky enough to have two channels support a mic and the other your guitar. I think we got our first dedicated PA which I built the speaker boxes in 1970 when I got out of high school. The PA head was an Old Tube RCA unit probably about 35 watts. :lol: Hard to remember but I must have adapted that old unit to take several mics a channel. It worked probably not too fancy but it got our voices in the mix. Next PA was with a different band we bought it new it was a Kustom Casino 100 watt system. I even had a Sure Vocal Master system for a while. They must have sold a ton of them I still see them once in a while. :shock:


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