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Post subject: Re: Is there a USA produced Performer Elite Bass
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:35 pm
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Oh, I get it you're called chrome face because you are so thick headed. This thread is asking if MIA Performers ACTUALLY exist. We've all read the same catalogs, guitar encyclopedias and such as you and the reality was if they were out there we would have seen one--quotes from catalogs and such prove nothing . Show me an ebony fretboard three pickup Performer and I'll believe it. You've shown nothing and your info is hopelessly flawed.


No need to be so rude. I see you are fairly new to this forum and once you are here long enough will realize most of the long term members really know their stuff but information regarding many Fender guitars can be so ambiguous or "secretive" or uncertain that anyone can make a mistake....and then we might find out later it wasn't a mistake...or that everyone was mistaken, or that no one knows for sure.

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Post subject: Re: Is there a USA produced Performer Elite Bass
Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:51 pm
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Why chase after the 5 string? You are a "Collector of Vintage 4 String Basses" after all


I know, you are right. I have never owned a fiver and only tried playing one once. It's just kind of special, not to mention beautiful, and it would fit in my collection of Performers. First I have to find it. Then I can deal with my five string demons.

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Post subject: Re: Is there a USA produced Performer Elite Bass
Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:30 pm
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I understand. I was just bustin' your chops. Maybe it was just a bad attempt at humor. :lol:
Who wouldn't want to get their hands on the "rare" stuff?
I have seen your photograph of your collection you have posted on here and said "Holy Smokes"
Respect that!!

P.s If that photo is in the form of a "Wall Poster" I'll take one. :wink:


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Post subject: Re: Is there a USA produced Performer Elite Bass
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 5:00 pm
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I am sorry if anybody felt I was being rude, but when this thread started I knew the only thing that would convince me one way or the other would be someone posting 'Yea I've played or I have a MIA Performer' or someone from Fender saying 'We never made 'em'.
Rob from Fender pretty much confirmed it to the best of his knowledge. And then he is rudely contradicted by some one who offers no first hand knowledge just what you might read in a guitar book. Let me tell you a story. A friend of mine wrote a biography of an Oscar winning movie star. One of the greatest ever. She never interviewed him or any family member, never went to his hometown, never talked to anyone who knew the actor, never got permission from his estate. A major publisher published it and she made nearly 6 figures. Books can be full of inaccuracies. To constitute libel it must be false and cause demonstrable harm. Fender is not harmed if someone publishes inaccurate info--hell Fender publishes inaccurate info.
My experience was that in 1985-88 my bandmates and I loved going to music stores, mom and pop places, head shops, guitar and drum shops whatever you want to call them and I never caught a whiff of a MIA Performer (or Performer Elite really the same thing-- a ghost that was never produced). My bandmate Eric had ordered a Fender Strat from the catalog a few months before I bought my Performer and six months later after failing to deliver a strat or a tele they told him take a Lead II or take your money back. People thought Fender was either going under or moving all production to Japan.
My point is that if Fender couldn't deliver strats and teles no way would they devote resources to an unproven line
As for me being newish to the forum let me point out that in this thread I am whole-heartedly agreeing with what BrotherDave said early on. A pretty savvy position even for a newbie.
Fender should reissue the unissued MIA Performer Elite with Ebony fretboard, active electronics and no white pickguard. A GHOST RE-ISSUE!!!


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Post subject: Re: Is there a USA produced Performer Elite Bass
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 2:26 am
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In that case the USA Performer Elite Bass - if released - will feature a pair of EMG HZ humbuckers, 3-band EQ, 18V power supply and a hi-mass bridge. These touches will make for a completely different animal.

Available in 4, 5 and 6 string versions, fretted, fretless with 24 inlaid white fretlines and left-handed.

Only the body shape will remain unchanged.

+1 for the backrouted controls.


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Post subject: Re: Is there a USA produced Performer Elite Bass
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:17 am
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Oh yeah, the humbuckers in keeping with the Performer guitar, and the original Performer bridge seemed like a compromise between what the designer wanted and what Fender would allow. As for those other specs, you probably know the technical stuff better than anyone on this forum Chromeface, just like Brotherdave has the most sage advice, and Affprod has the bankroll to amass a collection that most of us would give our left nut for (or in the case of bassplayinchick left tit?).

Sorry if I get defensive defending my axe but for 20 years when I tell knowledgable guitar people I got a Performer bass they all quote "discontinued because it wasn't popular with players". And I don't think that was the case. The Performer was born in the midst of the divorce of Fender and CBS and it was orphaned. Fender made an MIJ Performer available for maybe 18 months and didn't widely distribute it to dealers. Add to that, in the mid eighties lots of guys were mad that it seemed Fender wanted to farm all production out to Japan and they wouldn't even consider a Japanese bass. If there would have been an MIA Performer, maybe some of the alpha players would have given it a shot and then us young guys who could only afford the MIJ would have tried to copy them and Fender would have sold a boatload.

Guitar players especially like playing my Performer I only get 2 comments from them 'that's my favorite bass to play' or 'that's the ONLY bass I'll play'. Among bass players, guys who've established a certain style or model they like might find the Performer to be too unlike anything they are used to but mainly guys love it.

If I hand my bass over to a bass player who rests it on his knee and expects it to balance like a Precision, that 24 fret neck will dive like a killer, that's because the Performer is balanced to be slung low on your hip with the neck angled high like John Entwhistle and you are standing up...on stage...PERFORMING


And if I'm wrong about the name origin John Page can enter this thread and tell me my info is hopelessly incorrect!! :D


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Post subject: Re: Is there a USA produced Performer Elite Bass
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:32 am
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Well, my goal is to help Fender making the classic Performer design much better than the 1980s originals: hence's the reason for the EMG humbuckers on both guitar and bass.

As for the Performer guitar I consider the addition of an original Floyd Rose locking bridge as a huge improvement over the infamous System II tremolo systems.

With the addition of a 1-piece maple neck option and a comfortable compound radius for effortless bending and chording this guitar will rock.


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