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Post subject: Help for a beginner? (Beginner = Me)
Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 7:54 pm
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I've been playing bass for only a year, so I'm kind of a noob. I've been trying to teach myself to play bass, but I'll be taking lessons during the summer. So far, I have an ESP Ltd B-50 bass , and so far, I like it alot! However, I've been thinking of getting a Fender bass after I get money for selling cattle at my grandpa's ranch. I've been thinking of getting a squier bass pack, since it won't cost a lot and I think I'll be able to still get a good sound out of it and be able to learn on it. However, my brother who has been playing guitar since he was 16 (he's now 24) continues to say that Squier isn't really that good. So, I ask for some opinions: Should I take my bro's word for it, or just go for the bass pack? :shock:


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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:11 pm
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Squiers in general doesn't have the quality of it's Fender branded cousin. But with every rule(s) there are exceptions. I was blown away with the Vintage Modified 70's bass I had to get one. I used to think like your brother. On the cheaper side Squiers are just that - cheap to play and learn from, but on their higher end model(s) they are a bargain compared to the Fender line (MIM). If you're going to buy a new bass but still in the learning (afraid to spend too much $) the bass packs are the way to go. When you feel more comfortable playing, then you should be able to step up to what ever bass you like and enjoy playing. I started out with a Hondo PBass copy :D ...Keep learning and enjoy it.

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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 12:57 pm
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Squiers in general doesn't have the quality of it's Fender branded cousin. But with every rule(s) there are exceptions. I was blown away with the Vintage Modified 70's bass I had to get one. I used to think like your brother. On the cheaper side Squiers are just that - cheap to play and learn from, but on their higher end model(s) they are a bargain compared to the Fender line (MIM). If you're going to buy a new bass but still in the learning (afraid to spend too much $) the bass packs are the way to go. When you feel more comfortable playing, then you should be able to step up to what ever bass you like and enjoy playing. I started out with a Hondo PBass copy :D ...Keep learning and enjoy it.


My daughter wanted to learn bass and I bought her a Squire Bronco (Mustang copy) and it rocks! Great tone and playability -- I was so surprised considering it costs only $149!

And I agree the new Squire Vintage Modified Jazz Bass is really nice. I've got their Vintage Modified Fretless Jazz and it's a very playable instrument, and seems like it will last. Great value for $279.


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Squiers in general doesn't have the quality of it's Fender branded cousin. But with every rule(s) there are exceptions. I was blown away with the Vintage Modified 70's bass I had to get one. I used to think like your brother. On the cheaper side Squiers are just that - cheap to play and learn from, but on their higher end model(s) they are a bargain compared to the Fender line (MIM). If you're going to buy a new bass but still in the learning (afraid to spend too much $) the bass packs are the way to go. When you feel more comfortable playing, then you should be able to step up to what ever bass you like and enjoy playing. I started out with a Hondo PBass copy :D ...Keep learning and enjoy it.



Thanks! I was just kind of wondering if I should get it just to learn on and still get a good sound out of to practice on when I get a little better. I was just thinking of getting a good beginner bass and amp and still saving money for other things. By the way, How much is the Bass pack? I'll be getting around 400 bucks for selling one calf. Thanks for the info :shock:


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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:21 pm
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Squiers in general doesn't have the quality of it's Fender branded cousin. But with every rule(s) there are exceptions. I was blown away with the Vintage Modified 70's bass I had to get one. I used to think like your brother. On the cheaper side Squiers are just that - cheap to play and learn from, but on their higher end model(s) they are a bargain compared to the Fender line (MIM). If you're going to buy a new bass but still in the learning (afraid to spend too much $) the bass packs are the way to go. When you feel more comfortable playing, then you should be able to step up to what ever bass you like and enjoy playing. I started out with a Hondo PBass copy :D ...Keep learning and enjoy it.



Thanks! I was just kind of wondering if I should get it just to learn on and still get a good sound out of to practice on when I get a little better. I was just thinking of getting a good beginner bass and amp and still saving money for other things. By the way, How much is the Bass pack? I'll be getting around 400 bucks for selling one calf. Thanks for the info :shock:


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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:44 pm
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I think you should start off the Squier pack, this guy i know has it, plays great, and i have the rumble 15 amp, and im very satisfied. Maybe you should get a p bass. Even though a jazz bass has more tonal options, a p bass is lot easier to mod/repair and for me has a better mid-range tone (kind of like Mike Dirnt's stuff, if you know what i mean)

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Look for a used Fender MIM Standard Precision or Jazz Bass from 2000-2004 you will be able to get one for a lot less than that i got mine for 275 from 2002 with a hardcase in amazing shape! Squier is not that great so don't waste your time is a cheap off brand of fender meant for starters and such is a very very mass produced instrument. You would also be able to get a cool active bass from the 90's or a 80's Special Jazz or Power Jazz maybe which are active meaning that they can give you a precision bass sound and jazz bass sound and they are all around that price range that you have. Good luck on choosing your new bass!!

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Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:59 am
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... active meaning that they can give you a precision bass sound and jazz bass sound and they are all around that price range that you have. Good luck on choosing your new bass!!


Eh, no, active meaning it's battery powered and has an on board eq, pan/pot, and boost. The pick ups are the same, some J set up, some P set up, and some P/J set up. Plus to say Squiers are junk, yeah if you get the starter pack. Their top of the line is still cheaper than MIM basses and sound as good if not better with better build quality. The reason it's cheaper is due to the fact it's made in some other Asian country instead of Mexico.

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http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ ... sku=516042
Take a look there....
This is a Mexican Fender Standar....
I think that you can save more money and get it, it sounds great
so if you can wait for get more money and get it wil be better than a squier.


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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:44 am
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So for $279 - $299 before hagling, you'd rather get a $479 for a starter cuz is says Fender on it? Honestly, the Squiers CII are better in quality (VM Series) than a lot of the MIM Fenders I've tried @ the music store.

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After selling and or giving away all my gear and guitars, I just had to start up again. Of course I wasn't patient, as soon as I had a couple hundred bucks off I went to Guitar Center.

I bought a 5 string Squier MB5. It really isn't a bad little bass, the only issues it has are, the neck needs attention a lot!

For $199 what do you want? My advice, play a bunch, find one that fits and enjoy,


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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:38 am
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Fenders are great. I have a standard jazz, a '97 or so. I got it used about a year ago after I got a bass from Target. It was a major upgrade, and after switching out the pups, strings, bridge, and many other parts I was ready to go. I would recommend talking with someone you trust to get you a bass. If it is new, then it should be fine. I would go somewhere and test it and see if in person you like it. If you do, and that person you trust says it is good, then you should buy it from there. If there is something about it you don't like, then find a different bass. If you don't, and buy it, it will bite you in the butt later when oyu have to mod it to get the sound you want. Check out BASS GUITAR FOR DUMMIES. it is a good book for beginners. I have learned alot from it.


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I own a few Fender basses dating from the mid '60s to present day. I've also owned a Squier or 2 in my time. I have to say that for the money, the Squiers have great playability. The electonics are not as nice though, they have a tendency to not sound as full and in general are noisier. Having said that, I love the new Squier Pre-bass re-issue of the early 70's Fender telecaster bass .I find it very comparable to the original. A bit more attention to the "picky" things (like fret ends) would have been nice though. For the money, I'd buy one, but it sounds like you have some ok axes already...


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Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:03 pm
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Alright. Do you think your going to stick with it?
If you are, take your bros word for it. The guitar you have is probably better than a Squier.
If your not gonna stick with it, dont waste your money.
Keep practicing bro. If you keep practicing and get really good, get a nice Fender.
Upgrade...dont downgrade.
Oh yea and "noob" isnt the way to put it.
Thats for !@$ video games.
Haha. Good luck dude.

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If you already have an amp and bass , get a Squier Vintage Modified bass then !

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