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Post subject: Flat Wound Strings - Education needed
Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 4:23 pm
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Never had a bass with flat wound strings on it till I purchased a 72 Telecaster. I love them for blues, R&B and especially the old Motown tunes. Huge difference between that 72 and my 73 with round wound. Since then I have switched my Precision basses over to flats, using 45-100 just like my round wound preference. They are very nice, but not as mellow as the ones on my Tele, which are larger - have ordered a caliper so I can see how much larger. I notice at least three different gauges available. Tell me about the difference between them. While I assume the larger have a deeper tone, I do not that as a fact, are there other plusses and minues to the different diameters. If you go with a large string, do you have to rework the nut? So many questions.

Anyone that can give me flat wound 101 would be appreciated, or even a link to printed material would be cool.

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Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:46 am
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I happen to love these Thomastik-Infeld flats and run them exclusively on my '76 Precision.

http://www.juststrings.com/toi-jf344.html

This set of GHS flats is highly reguarded by many bassmen here.

http://www.juststrings.com/ghs-m3050.html

Here's a pretty cool link that explains a lot:

http://www.bass-strings.com/bass-string-guide

There You Go! 8)

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Post subject: Re: Flat Wound Strings - Education needed
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:16 pm
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What linnin said.


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Post subject: Re: Flat Wound Strings - Education needed
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:43 pm
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Here's some La Bella's:

http://www.juststrings.com/lab-0760m.html

http://www.juststrings.com/lab-760fm.html

These are recommended by Ed "The Bass Whisperer" Friedland.

Motown great, James Jamerson was known to use heavy La Bellas.

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Post subject: Re: Flat Wound Strings - Education needed
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:53 pm
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We can't leave out these Steve Harris (Iron Maiden) signature heavy flats from Rotosound.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessor ... ss-strings

http://www.rotosound.com/sh_77.php

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Post subject: Re: Flat Wound Strings - Education needed
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 5:04 pm
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I tried Rotosound's, they were so stiff and tight, i pulled them off after ten days, I've heard that LaBellas were tough on the neck too, that's why I never tried them.


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Post subject: Re: Flat Wound Strings - Education needed
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 5:16 pm
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oxfan wrote:
I tried Rotosound's, they were so stiff and tight, i pulled them off after ten days, I've heard that LaBellas were tough on the neck too, that's why I never tried them.


I hear ya oxfan. I've never tried either set. I just included them as they seem to be popular. I dislike D'Addarios so i left them out on purpose. :twisted:

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Post subject: Re: Flat Wound Strings - Education needed
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 5:57 pm
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Thanks linnin and oxfan, have not had a chance to look at the links yet but will tonight or tomorrow. Thank you very much for the input, I am looking forward to reading more.

It is funny, been playing since 1965 (with a thirty year break starting in 73), but back then it was always one bass, all I could afford, and it was always a Fender jazz. Now I collect Fender basses and have the pure enjoyment of choosing which one tonight. Never had a clue there was such a thing as a flat wound string until I bought that Tele. Never too old to learn, I guess.

Thanks again. Much appreciated.

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Post subject: Re: Flat Wound Strings - Education needed
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 8:00 pm
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You're welcome. You're never too old, I can attest to that! Isn't it great to collect? :D Just think if we would have had the cash, and good sense, so many years ago? Oh well, it's fun now.

Check these out.

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Post subject: Re: Flat Wound Strings - Education needed
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:29 pm
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Oh man, you are killing me. I sold my jazz to pay the bills. I bought it used for $125 if memory serves, which it seldom does, no clue what I sold it for back in 73. I bought it used in 65 so it had to be a 62-64. How many thousands is it worth today? I saw a 62 go for $48K.

Yes, collecting is fun. My goal was to collect every bass model made prior to 2000 and up to the first signature series by Stu. I actually cheated and have both Urge and Urge II which was an 01. I am missing the HM USA/Ultra and the Heartfield DR4. Otherwise I have a complete set. It has brought me a lot of joy, as you understand.

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Post subject: Re: Flat Wound Strings - Education needed
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 6:36 pm
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Has anyone considered Nylon strings? A flat string sound, with a number of advantages.
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:30 pm
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I would not feel so all alone--
everybody must get rounds!!! :D


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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:19 pm
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Mr. Nylon wrote:
Has anyone considered Nylon strings? A flat string sound, with a number of advantages.
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I am working my way there. I am thinking of putting them on my Ibanez acoustic Bass, those or the Chrome flatwounds. Although, Fender also has Nylons and as usual, the price is very reasonable. Fender is a musicians best friend.

D'Addarios are not for everyone, but when it comes to strings, they are right there with Fender for quality and price point, IMO.

My Ibanez SR600 bass came with Elixir strings. It is not a year old yet and the strings still sound as good, if not better than when I bought it. It is a very good sounding and playing bass guitar. Beautiful too.

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Post subject: Re: Flat Wound Strings - Education needed
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 4:52 am
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I would not feel so all alone--
everybody must get rounds!!! :D


You'll never walk alone, I use rounds exclusively.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfgqi-UahE8


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Post subject: Re: Flat Wound Strings - Education needed
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 9:02 am
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Usually larger diameter flats of the same series and make have more low end tones and fewer upper mid overtones than smaller gauge ones. The smaller the diameter then the brighter the tone and the more sustain you hear. For example the GHS Precision Flatwound 3025 (a very light gauge set measuring 045 to .095) sounds brighter and more modern with more sustain than the GHS Precision Flatwound 3050 Regulars (.055/.105) which are a lot bigger around and sound like a big booty old school string. Nickle sounds bassier than stainless flats. Stainless flats last longer than nickle.

The larger the diameter the higher the tension as a general rule however core shape also impacts the amount of tension. Hex core strings have higher tension than round core. The hex cores are longer lived and frequently have higher output since more metal mass is present to react with the electromagnetic field.

So you have to take into consideration diameter, core shape, core material, any layering material and outer wrap material/plating when selecting strings.


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