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Post subject: Fender Urge from the custom shop
Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:33 am
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I have a Fender Urge bass. Stu Hamms signature model. Serial #SE 921850. Is there anything significant about this bass. Larry Hartke gave me this bass. I used it to test Larry's cabinets when I worked for him. I think this was made by Mark Kendrich at the custom shop in California. I love the bass, it plays very nicely and has great tone. I have no intention of selling the bass, but would like to know what its worth and if there is any significant in this guitar. I cant find another one like it. The urge basses that are available have a different knob and toggle switch configuration. Like the toggle switch for the pick ups is in between the volume and tone knobs not on the end like the others.
Please inform any informati0on. Thanks


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Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:13 pm
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Hi Don,

Welcome to the forum! That is no doubt a very, very nice instrument.

I plugged your serial into the Guitar Dater Project and it says:

Your guitar is from the Signature Series
made at the Corona Plant (Fender), USA
in the Year(s): 1989

All the Signature Series instruments are really nice.

Fender does have a Custom Shop Senior Master Builder named Mark Kendrick. He started working in the Custom Shop in 1990. That would possibly exclude him from the build. Here is his bio showing he joined the Custom Shop in 1990.
http://www.fender.com/customshop/aboutus/profiles.php?csp=mark_kendrick

Regards,
Dave


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Post subject: Fender signature series
Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:38 am
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Thanks for your response Brotherdave. I looked at the Urge basses that are available to the public. They are going for $2, 195. I failed to mention that I had Stu sign the back of the headstock. He put, "thanks Don, Stu hamm". Does this depreciate the value.
Again, I dont want to sell the bass. But, I am considering Insuring it. I would like to try and put a value to it. To me the centimental value is through the roof. It was a gift from Larry Hartke.
Thanks again for getting back to me....


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Post subject: Re: Fender signature series
Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:19 pm
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Dononbass wrote:
Thanks for your response Brotherdave. I looked at the Urge basses that are available to the public. They are going for $2, 195. I failed to mention that I had Stu sign the back of the headstock. He put, "thanks Don, Stu hamm". Does this depreciate the value.
Again, I dont want to sell the bass. But, I am considering Insuring it. I would like to try and put a value to it. To me the centimental value is through the roof. It was a gift from Larry Hartke.
Thanks again for getting back to me....


Actually the signature would increase the value of the instrument to some people, but the question is by how much. If you have any providence for the signature such as photos of Mr. Hamm with that bass, signing the bass or even an affidavit from Don stating how he got the instrument and what he did with it after he got it which would lead to him giving it to you, any of that would be helpful in authenticating it.

This would be a good instrument to get a reputable, respectable appraisal service to give you a written appraisal. This will establish a value for the insurance company so you'll know how much insurance to get. And if anything happens to it you can point to the appraisal and say, it was worth THIS MUCH. George Gruhn at Gruhn Guitars in Nashville is one of the most commonly used and is well respected. http://www.gruhn.com/


If you don't have providence for the signature, the autograph may need to be authenticated. There are also services that do that like http://www.autographsauthentication.com ... cation.htm

I wouldn’t sell it EITHER. However if anything happens to it you want the insurance company to know what it was really worth! Otherwise they will low-ball you claiming depreciation and that you have no proof it was collectible or more valuable than a new one.


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Post subject: The whole story
Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:06 pm
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Thanks again for your time on this matter. I think I may need to clarify, how I got this bass.
I was working at Hartke Systems at the time. I did quality control on the cabinets, before they were boxed and shipped. I also worked with Larry Hartke in artist relations. We indorced Stu, so Stu was around for photo shoots and what have you....
When Stu and Fender came out with this model. Larry Hartke bought 3 of them to have at the Hartke Systems shop. It is my understanding that Fender made these 3 to Stu's specifications... and Im sure Larry Hartke got a break on the price. Well after about 4 months of playing these guitar at Hartke Systems. I fell in love with the playability and the great tone. Larry called me to his office and gave me 1 of the 3 guitar. Stu and Joe Satriani were playing the Beacon that week and I asked Stu if I could come to the show and have him sign the guitar. He said sure no problem.

So as far as providence, I was standing right there when Stu signed it. He comented on what a nice guitar it is and he wished me the best of luck. Then signed it "thanks Don Stu hamm" (Im Don). So I know for sure it is Stu's signature. WITHOUT A DOUBT.

Thanks for the advice on the apraiser. I recently moved from Jersey to Southern Indiana. So Nashville is only a few hours away.

P.S. I checked out your web sight. Looks like you have a lot going on. Best of luck sir....


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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:29 am
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Hi Don,

OK. You FOR SURE have a HISTORICALLY significant instrument. Take what you thought it might be worth and do some multiplication....let's see...maybe by a factor of FIVE.

If you have kids I'd be writing up a history of the instrument and getting that statement notarized NOW.

Get with George Gruhn.

While the market is down right now, this was a central instrument not only in Fender history but also in Hartke history. It is a double header!

In short...you have a VERY SIGNIFICANT instrument.

DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT! And INSURE it for FULL VALUE.

I may be old and road worn... but I know a find when I see one. Write down anything you can remember about the bass, sign it and have it notarized TODAY.

APPRAISAL value? Screw appraisal value!

You have a historically significant instrument. All I can say is, OMFG!


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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:36 pm
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I have nothing significant to say, except that I'm jealous of you Don!!! Welcome to the Forums anyway :roll: :wink: :D

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