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Post subject: Re: Heritage Cherry SG Std.
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:48 pm
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Sounds like a good deal, then. 8)


For me, I think it was. I still like the the Mustang for comfort to play over my all time bass design, the Gibson EB/SG. It's a damn shame that I love the looks and shape of the Gibson, but it just doesn't feel right when I play one anymore. SG Std.'s are just too expensive anymore to buy one, and just look at it. Do you have a particular bass that somewhat drives you a bit crazy like that Gibson does to me?

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Post subject: Re: Olympic White Mustang PJ
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:10 pm
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What's the issue with the Gibson? The neck feel? I'm not really sure I have a particular issue with a basses playability, other than having to adjust from one size neck to the other, but that was because I was used to the violin bass, but more so other issues with some of the basses I do have. Right now, the one thing that's bugging me is that since the action on the Ibanez short scale is so low, it's been noticeably buzzing on some frets, which I especially noticed going through the Ampeg. It's strange that I didn't notice that before, when I was playing it through the Fender. Maybe the climate changing screwed with the neck, which it has a tendency to do in these parts. What sucks about that is it's not sounding to good through the Ampeg, and the fact I'll have to raise the action a tiny bit, which annoys me, since it plays so perfectly, sans that. I just hate to mess with it, but it looks like I won't have much of a choice. :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Heritage Cherry SG Std.
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:29 pm
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The Gibson's have that poor placement of the front strap button, extreme head dive. That also makes the bass want to out, and away from the body. That stretches the wrist further down on an angle.

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Post subject: Re: Olympic White Mustang PJ
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:14 am
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I can see where that could be an issue, especially if you're used to a Fender design. You know who has a really weird set up for the strap on their bass? A Danelectro Longhorn. It's a short scale, but with my strap, which is thick and wide, the way it fits on the back it kind of makes the neck stick far out like it's a long scale bass from the body. It's probably better with a thinner strap, maybe one of those old school Paul McCartney ones from back in the day. It's a great player other than that. No neck dive, though. I think if I had one as a regular player, I'd have to try a different strap for it.

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Post subject: Re: Heritage Cherry SG Std.
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:22 pm
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The head sticking way out on a Gibson SG Std., gives it the neck dive. Jack Bruce played a Danelectro Longhorn at times when he was in Cream.

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Post subject: Re: Olympic White Mustang PJ
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:26 pm
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I remember seeing that he did that. He also had a Fender Bass VI, then I guess he went over to a Gibson EB-3. I wonder if Epiphone still makes their EB-3 copy? The only thing with that is that they made it with a long scale, which it wasn't originally.

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Post subject: Re: Heritage Cherry SG Std.
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:20 pm
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Bruce also used a Gibson EB3L. A long scale EB3. A very nice EB in the series.
The Epi copy is actually a misnamed EB3L, not an EB3.

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Post subject: Re: Olympic White Mustang PJ
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:39 am
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Yeah, I suppose it would be, although, didn't those have a slotted headstock?

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Post subject: Re: Heritage Cherry SG Std.
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Some did and others didn’t. Gibson wasn’t always consistent with the same models makeup.

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Post subject: Re: Olympic White Mustang PJ
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:25 am
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They might have tried one thing, and figured it didn't work out, or got bored in the marketing department, and changed it to something else. The original EB-0 bass had a Les Paul Junior body shape, instead of the SG one. Image

They did reissue it a few years ago, but called it a Les Paul Junior DC Bass.

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Post subject: Re: Heritage Cherry SG Std.
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:21 pm
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That's very true. I was always wanting an EB1, but I'm not going to go there. I think the Les Paul Junior DC Bass, was considered by Gibson an EB14, or something like that. I've pretty much given up on Gibson basses. That's something I thought I'd never say.

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Post subject: Re: Olympic White Mustang PJ
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 4:15 pm
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It seems like that they weren't a priority for that company to begin with. I suppose here and there they put some cool stuff out, but then they quit making it. Who knows what's going to happen now, with all of their financial issues, and now new leadership.

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Post subject: Re: Heritage Cherry SG Std.
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:49 pm
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Gibson has put out a 2019 SG Std. Available in Black, and Heritage Cherry. Image

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Post subject: Re: Olympic White Mustang PJ
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:40 am
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Wow, so you decided to give them another shot then? That's cool that they are still making those. For some reason, I thought that I read they weren't making those, or maybe that was in 2016, or something like that.

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Post subject: Re: Heritage Cherry SG Std.
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 7:48 pm
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Yeah,......... I know I'm Doctor Jekyll, and Mister Hyde when it comes to Gibson SG Std. Basses. Mine new one is a 2019 series. QC is top shelf, and the intonation from the "Gibson Barn", sounds, and plays amazing. It's very quick, and I readjusted the playing location I play it in relation to my body. It helps the playing, and the comfort of it. It also cuts down on the "Neck Dive of Death", as I refer to it.

Gibson went back to a 3 point bridge, and also went back to the old style shaped hard shell brown case. With it back to the 3 point bridge, it uses the ETB92S short scale strings. The former Babicz bridge caused extra length, so a medium scale string was needed. I think the Babicz bridge wasn't as great on the SG Std. as they anticipated it would be.

The Heritage Cherry is another thing that takes me back to late 1969 early 1970, when I bought my first Gibson EBO. I guess I'll never forget how I saw that first Gibson with stars in my eyes. Ron, and Nick couldn't believe I spent $350. dollars for the EBO at that time. But it sounded great through the Traynor, and my 212 cab. Image Image

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