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Post subject: Re: Which one are you playing today?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:10 am
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We had colored TVs, but a few, smaller black and white ones here and there over the years. My brother had a black and white TV in his garage in the mid 90's that still worked, with the rabbit ears. We use to hang out there during a lunch break when we worked for my dad's lawn service and watch "Jerry Springer" and crap like that and drink beer. :P Now, unless you have some sort of digital converter, you can't use those old TVs anymore.

From what I've understood with the different woods, is usually rosewood has a darker sound, and maple a brighter sound, but I suppose that's speculative to the player.


And then you have to factor in the strings being used, and that kinda' blows everything out of the ballpark. I'm not going to get into the amp differences.

In mid to later 60's, more the later 60's, color TV commercials on TV was one of the most run at that time. I have to tell ya', I flat out hate digital TV. I've had more problems with this crap. A big "Eat Shiz And Die" to Congress for stuffing digital down everyone's throat. A lot of money went into pockets for that one, at the consumer's expense. AGAIN!

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Post subject: Re: Which one are you playing today?
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2018 3:59 pm
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I know. Tone woods are just the tip of the iceberg. There's also the players themselves. I could play your exact rig with the exact same settings, or you mine, and they'd both sound different.

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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:30 pm
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I know. Tone woods are just the tip of the iceberg. There's also the players themselves. I could play your exact rig with the exact same settings, or you mine, and they'd both sound different.


I agree totally agree. Even the way a string is plucked can change at any time, even by the same player.

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Post subject: Re: Which one are you playing today?
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:03 pm
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That's true.

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Post subject: Re: Which one are you playing today?
Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:23 pm
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That's true.


I know if I use my pointer finger, I get a treble sound.

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Post subject: Re: Which one are you playing today?
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:29 pm
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I can see where that makes sense. I primarily use that finger, probably out of a habit I picked up learning how to play. I rarely use two fingers, for some reason. Really, I wish I learned how to play with a plectrum, it would have also made it easier with the guitar playing. It's just an awkward, often uncomfortable thing for me to use. Maybe if I sat down and seriously practiced with it, I might be able to adapt, but it's like teaching an old dog new tricks at this point in time. This August, I will have been playing for 30 years.

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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:48 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
I can see where that makes sense. I primarily use that finger, probably out of a habit I picked up learning how to play. I rarely use two fingers, for some reason. Really, I wish I learned how to play with a plectrum, it would have also made it easier with the guitar playing. It's just an awkward, often uncomfortable thing for me to use. Maybe if I sat down and seriously practiced with it, I might be able to adapt, but it's like teaching an old dog new tricks at this point in time. This August, I will have been playing for 30 years.


Years ago, i noticed the pointer doing the treble sound. I think it has to do with the ridged, more solid tip of it. Trimming finger nails down lower helps to finger a bit softer to the touch on the strings. Picks and I never got a long either.

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:05 am
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I suppose you could pluck or strum with your thumb, which is also a softer sound, but unless you're used to doing that, it will tear it, or blister it up. I've also noticed with the thumb (unless you're used to it, once again,) it's a little more difficult moving between the strings, because you have to turn your hand to accommodate that movement.

Then again, that could be just me, since I'm sure my whole right hand technique is half arsed, from being self-taught. I never learned, or adapted to "proper" playing techniques, because I really never learned them. I've been winging it for the past 30 years. :P

The main regret for not adapting to a plectrum is it's a lot harder to play a 6-stringer without one, although there are so many people that have mastered that style. They're also guitarists to begin with, not some bassist trying to hack his way through it with those tiny strings that cut into you more than the big ones we're used to. :roll: I'm trying, though.

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:34 pm
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I tried doing a pick in 1968 when I went from guitar to bass. Even then, I played better without a pick. Playing with a thumb was more practical with the style of music with the early electric basses. Country & Western is more of a slower beat, for playing with the thumb. Some standup bass players moving over to electric used the thumb with stand ups. The stand up players were why a lot of the switch over to electrics held the bass almost upright at first.

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:40 pm
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Then Leo Fender had the finger rest thing on the bottom, instead of the top (other than the 70's models,) so he was figuring that you'd play it with your thumb, and use that thing to anchor your fingers with. With it on top, you can use it as a thumb rest, of course. I wound up taking mine off from the '77 Jazz I had, because at that time, I had liked to rest my thumb further back on the pickups, or even the bridge one. That changed as the years went on, and I had more experience under my belt.

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:32 pm
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The bottom bar, was the Tug Bar. The top bar, was the Thumb Rest. My 1969/1970 EB0 had a Tug Bar that I never used.

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I suppose it depends on where you like to place your hand when playing.

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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:13 am
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PaulLF wrote:
I suppose it depends on where you like to place your hand when playing.


Yeah, that's the starting place for sure.

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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:44 pm
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I suppose you could pluck or strum with your thumb, which is also a softer sound, but unless you're used to doing that, it will tear it, or blister it up. I've also noticed with the thumb (unless you're used to it, once again,) it's a little more difficult moving between the strings, because you have to turn your hand to accommodate that movement.

Then again, that could be just me, since I'm sure my whole right hand technique is half arsed, from being self-taught. I never learned, or adapted to "proper" playing techniques, because I really never learned them. I've been winging it for the past 30 years. :P

The main regret for not adapting to a plectrum is it's a lot harder to play a 6-stringer without one, although there are so many people that have mastered that style. They're also guitarists to begin with, not some bassist trying to hack his way through it with those tiny strings that cut into you more than the big ones we're used to. :roll: I'm trying, though.


One of the things I've been working with lately is a 4 finger free stroke technique (thumb,index, middle, ring) a'la Matt Garrison, Hadrien Feraud, and Dominique Di Piazza. For me it is kind of a special effect technique like slapping or 2 handed tapping. The effect is kind of a thinner sound with a lot of attack. The benefits of the technique are your wrist stays straighter/at a more "neutral" position and if you keep your hand closer to the strings it is easier to just drop your hand a little and palm mute.

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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:05 pm
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I like having my wrist straighter as I play also. for me to feels, and plays better without my arresting on the body, and my thumb is the only thing anchoring on the bass.

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