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Post subject: Lining my now fretless board - help
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:43 pm
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I bought a project bass that has had the frets removed. I would like any tips on lining the neck. I have the wood strips to line it. The slots are ready for the lines . The main question is 1. What kind of glue?
2. best way to glue them in?
3. How to deal with glue that gets on the board?
4. Does anyone know of a "How To" demo site for doing the lining ?

I know it's not rocket science - I guess the main thing would be for me to know about the glue drying or getting on the rosewood AND how to promote the filling in of gaps around the lines. There are very small chips along the de-fretted slots and I want it to be smooth and filled in. There will prob be gaps on the kerf part of the slots also to be filled in.

I want to avoid varnish.

I was searching around on the net and didn't have much luck. Thanks !!!!


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Post subject: Re: Lining my now fretless board - help
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 2:43 am
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Hmmmmm, good luck with that. i wish I had some good advice.


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Post subject: Re: Lining my now fretless board - help
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:50 am
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Carpenters glue or wood glue, they're the same thing and you can buy it almost anywhere. It's that yellowish creamy liquid glue in a squeeze bottle that you've seen lots of places since you were a kid. Not the clear yellow stuff that looks like honey that you saw as a kid. And certainly not anything that can be mounted into a caulking gun, like PL 2000 or some such. The creamy kind. Water soluble. You keep a basin of water nearby with a rag and you wipe off any squeeze out immediately. Keep a toothbrush in the basin as well. You can use the toothbrush to dig into tight cracks or corners if you ever have any and remove excess glue.

I would deal with the burs and chips first before gluing, though. Only way to deal with that is to GENTLY remove more wood, either by sanding or filing or cutting with a knife. You could take the fretboard down thinner or you could widen the slots. It would depend on how bad the chips are and in which direction they are the worst.

In the alternate, you could also just leave them and not deal with them and just live with it. Or you could also try wood filler. Both of those alternate options would not be acceptable to me personally. I use those options all the time on other wood projects but a fretboard would be different in my eyes. Others may see it differently.


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Post subject: Re: Lining my now fretless board - help
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:39 pm
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[quote="BMW-KTM"]Carpenters glue or wood glue, they're the same thing and you can buy it almost anywhere. It's that yellowish creamy liquid glue in a squeeze bottle that you've seen lots of places since you were a kid. Not the clear yellow stuff that looks like honey that you saw as a kid. And certainly not anything that can be mounted into a caulking gun, like PL 2000 or some such. The creamy kind. Water soluble. You keep a basin of water nearby with a rag and you wipe off any squeeze out immediately. Keep a toothbrush in the basin as well. You can use the toothbrush to dig into tight cracks or corners if you ever have any and remove excess glue.

I would deal with the burs and chips first before gluing, though. Only way to deal with that is to GENTLY remove more wood, either by sanding or filing or cutting with a knife. You could take the fretboard down thinner or you could widen the slots. It would depend on how bad the chips are and in which direction they are the worst.

In the alternate, you could also just leave them and not deal with them and just live with it. Or you could also try wood filler. Both of those alternate options would not be acceptable to me personally. I use those options all the time on other wood projects but a fretboard would be different in my eyes. Others may see it differently.


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I have a pretty good idea of how to do this. I'm glad I can use the wood glue. I've worked with it before and it doesn't bother me if it doesn't dry completely clear. The bass is kind of beat up anyway.

I have the wood glue- The chips are very small along the slot where whoever pulled the frets yanked them causing the dry rosewood to chip.
Let me get this right and see if this is a plan-----

*Prep the board by sanding with fine grit sandpaper(The board is already clean of dirt and gack)
*Clean off board ( residue from sanding)
*Apply wood glue to small chip indents with a toothpick ( very small drops one at a time.)let dry completely making sure the glue dries to at least flush with the board surface or just a little higher. ( I might not even need to do this and just touch up before final sanding)
* Adjust slots to accept the maple strips.
* Apply glue to slot
* put maple line strip in slot ( strip is larger by a small margin to accomidate sanding after drying)
*wipe away excess glue with a damp rag .
* let glue dry completely
* after dry fill in any gaps with small amount of wood glue along the strips and in the kerfs.
* Once dry trim maple slot strips close to board but not flush to board.
* carefully sand strips with fine grain sandpaper untill the board and sides of the board (kerfs) are smooth and flush.

I'm thinking that I would not want to do all the slots at one time- Maybe 4 at a time?

Okay does my plan sound right.? I may not be thinking of something. I've worked on guitars quite a bit but I've just never done the lining. I don't want to screw up. :D


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Post subject: Re: Lining my now fretless board - help
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:07 pm
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I always wanted to buy a beater bass and just sand down the frets, so they're just a hair below wood level. Maybe brush a few layers of wax or something over the fingerboard.


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Post subject: Re: Lining my now fretless board - help
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:50 pm
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WildintheStreets wrote:
I always wanted to buy a beater bass and just sand down the frets, so they're just a hair below wood level. Maybe brush a few layers of wax or something over the fingerboard.



That sounds like it would be really hard to do. Yeah- I stumbled upon the beater at the music store when I picked up some strings. The frets were pulled and that got me thinking. The bass is getting everything except the neck and body replaced. I have all the parts already so for under $100 I figured I could go with it.

SO... i started the lining. Doing this is teaching me some things about Rosewood. The bass I have for this project probably didn't see a case very much. It's an 01 and the thing is typical of many guitars that get beat up more than played. The perticular rosewood on this one is either just dried out to the max or very brittle to begin with.
I'm just doing the lining as good as I can . It's not like it's a beautiful bass or an expensive one.

This whole deal is Oxfans ( real name= Oxidation Fantastic) fault. He went fretless so now I have to. :cry:


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