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Post subject: Fender Jazz Serial Number Issue
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 10:54 pm
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Hi everyone, first post here. So recently I picked up a great used '07 Lefty MIA Fender Jazz Bass from a national reputable dealer and when I called Fender to get more info on my bass they said they didn't have a production record for that serial #. Naturally distraught thinking it might be a fake (although only a poorly placed decal slightly under a machine suggests that) - I took the bass apart and read the representative the raw part number stickers under the control plate and under the truss rod on the neck. He confirmed these were MIA Fender parts and the Inspection stamp of C. Valencia was indeed a Fender inspector. They suggested it could be a fender manufactures direct replacement neck (where they don't log those s/ns?? Is that true?) or that someone might have flubbed recording the number at the plant. The reputable dealer clerk I bought the bass from assured me he was the one to order the bass from Fender, sell it to a regular and buy it back from him before it got to me. I brought this s/n issue up to him today and he is looking into this more as we speak.

My only concern now what it means for this bass when I resell it (despite wanting to make sure I have a 100% genuine MIA Fender). Is there a way to get the S/N registered? Do I have to worry about and mention this convoluted story upon resale if I want to be honest or is that not necessary? :?

Thanks for your help guys.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Jazz Serial Number Issue
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:51 am
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apedosmil2 wrote:
Hi everyone, first post here. So recently I picked up a great used '07 Lefty MIA Fender Jazz Bass from a national reputable dealer and when I called Fender to get more info on my bass they said they didn't have a production record for that serial #. Naturally distraught thinking it might be a fake (although only a poorly placed decal slightly under a machine suggests that) - I took the bass apart and read the representative the raw part number stickers under the control plate and under the truss rod on the neck. He confirmed these were MIA Fender parts and the Inspection stamp of C. Valencia was indeed a Fender inspector. They suggested it could be a fender manufactures direct replacement neck (where they don't log those s/ns?? Is that true?) or that someone might have flubbed recording the number at the plant. The reputable dealer clerk I bought the bass from assured me he was the one to order the bass from Fender, sell it to a regular and buy it back from him before it got to me. I brought this s/n issue up to him today and he is looking into this more as we speak.

My only concern now what it means for this bass when I resell it (despite wanting to make sure I have a 100% genuine MIA Fender). Is there a way to get the S/N registered? Do I have to worry about and mention this convoluted story upon resale if I want to be honest or is that not necessary? :?

Thanks for your help guys.


That all sounds reasonable. A warranty replacement neck would have a different serial than the original. I have no idea if they ever kept records on replacement necks. If the Fender Consumer Relations person told you that they didn't keep a record on the serials of replacement necks I would not doubt their word. There is no reason for them to mislead you.

I would not think there is any "way to get the S/N registered." This is done by the factory in the production/shipping departments. Doing this after the fact is probably not doable.

If Fender says it all sounds real then it probably is. As far as disclosure, I don't see why you should not provide this info to the next owner. Most people do not call for info on the instrument and almost nobody would before actually buying it.

I think I would have noticed the questionable decal placement before buying it. To me the fact that the headstock decal placement is odd is a value hit. The serial being non-verifiable is a less significant issue. Just how much of a hit you'll take on the decal I do not know. Fender decal placement problems hardly ever get past inspectors and must be counted as a defect from normal. The serial being unrecorded is the first one I've ever heard about on such a new instrument, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I would not count that as nearly as big a value issue as the screwed up decal which I'm surprised got by inspection or got accepted by the dealer and sold in the first place. The possibility it is a replacement neck is real.

About the only way to know for sure whether or not an instrument purchased used is authentic is to get appraisal.

If you can get your money back on this I would because you obviously have a doubt whether or not it is genuine because of the funky decal placement even with the word of the dealer that ordered the instrument from Fender verifying it is genuine. So will potential buyers and they will only have your word about all this. You may have way more trouble selling it than you would one with correct decal placement. The serial number issue is far less significant to me than the decal being fragged.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Jazz Serial Number Issue
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:33 am
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Thank you for the reply. I have included a picture of the decal, its really not horrible but it can surely rub someone with OCD the wrong way. Image


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Post subject: Re: Fender Jazz Serial Number Issue
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:29 am
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Your decal placement appear to be off because of it being a standard decal intended for the majority heads being right handed. I don't know, but I would guess Fender uses one decal for both right, and left handed basses.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Jazz Serial Number Issue
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:33 am
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Mr. Nylon wrote:
Your decal placement appear to be off because of it being a standard decal intended for the majority heads being right handed. I don't know, but I would guess Fender uses one decal for both right, and left handed basses.
Your decal placement appear to be off because of it being a standard decal intended for the majority heads being right handed. I don't know, but I would guess Fender uses one decal for both right, and left handed basses.


Good One Mr. Nylon,.......I would never of tought of this but it does make sence.. :)


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Post subject: Re: Fender Jazz Serial Number Issue
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:55 am
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Thank you for the reply. I have included a picture of the decal, its really not horrible but it can surely rub someone with OCD the wrong way. Image


Hi James; I just looked at it, and it looks that way to me after looking at right, and left handed American Standard heads. I don't know. :roll: :D :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is how my right handed head's decal sets.
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Post subject: Re: Fender Jazz Serial Number Issue
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:40 pm
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Thanks for the replies guys. The bass plays too nice for me to return it over the decal placement but the unidentifiable s/n is bothersome. This is my first MIA guitar or bass and the only used lefty I found for a decent price after lurking everywhere but the idea that Fender doesn't have it on record kind of sucks. I also dont want the next person who owns it to get upset over the issue. Wish there was a way to get it authenticated.


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Post subject: Re: Fender Jazz Serial Number Issue
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:27 pm
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Send it to one of us, and you won't have to anguish over it anymore.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Jazz Serial Number Issue
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:11 pm
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Mr. Nylon wrote:
Hi James; I just looked at it, and it looks that way to me after looking at right, and left handed American Standard heads. I don't know. :roll: :D :lol: :lol: :lol:


DOHH!!! :roll: :roll: :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Fender Jazz Serial Number Issue
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:50 pm
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I would relax and play that Jazz Bass. All lefty's look a little odd because Fender varies the decal placement. some necks have the Fender name closer to the fingerboard and the model name omitted. Yours has both Fender and Jazz bass as well as made in the U.S.A..

I think that any subsequent owner is going to accept it as a USA bass. And actually, the warranty only applies to you. The next owner is not covered so why would they call Fender looking to make sure that the bass is legitimate? No, they will just play it and be happy.
That's what I would do.

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Post subject: Re: Fender Jazz Serial Number Issue
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:14 am
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When I bought my fretless, I called fender and guess what? It wasn't registered. After swapping pickguards, I found everything else to be kosher. Fender explained that it was probably a replacement neck, and in 97-98, it was the norm for new neck numbers NOT to be documented.


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