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Post subject: Identifying a color
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:48 am
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I am trying to identify exactly what color this bass is, and I'm not sure how. It is a 2003 MIM. Anyone know what it is?

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Post subject: Re: Identifying a color
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:18 pm
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Post subject: Re: Identifying a color
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:39 pm
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Fender Agave Blue. Paint code is 529. Used on MIM instruments in the early 21st century through about 2005. Similar to the USA color called Ice Blue Metallic with paint code 83.


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Post subject: Re: Identifying a color
Posted: Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:50 am
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I have a small diameter, wood-deep chip on my agave blue 2005 strat which otherwise has an almost flawless finish. I don't care to consider it relic'd and would like to restore this area.

Does anyone offer this color in a touch-up? I checked ReRanch and they don't have it.

I suppose I'll have to get a shop to custom match the paint if there's no prefab touch-up available anywhere, so how will they know what I want from the number 529? Is that gonna help them at all or will I have to shave some base coat off he neck pocket (no clear coat here) for analysis/match?

I know these color codes are not universal, as 529 in Duplicolor, for example, is Dark Spiral Gray.


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Post subject: Re: Identifying a color
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:25 pm
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They are mostly car colors. Unfortunately I don't know from which car company or what car color it is. Frequently Fender renames the color for guitars, but not always. Color matching at the local body shop sounds like a good idea. It is CLOSE to Ice Blue Metallic which was a USA color, but a bit less metallic looking. That's no help I know.

The number I posted was the FENDER color code number. It won't correspond to anything anywhere else. So I'm no help.


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Post subject: Re: Identifying a color
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:42 pm
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The color charts I've seen, including the one on Fender's site, only use 2 digits (e.g., 29 for Blue Agave). What does the "5" prefix indicate, year (i.e., 2005)?

I took samples from my guitar -- uncoated base from the neck pocket and clear coated from the pickup cavity -- and checked them against a multitude of nail polishes and car paints.

The closest readily available, off-the-shelf car colors I've found thus far are Dupli-Color Light Blue Metallic and Maui Blue Metallic. Depending on the lighting and whether you're matching the base color or the clear coated color, these two colors can be very close or very off. I nabbed some pics of the Fender color chart and DC's paints (cropped to the spray can cap) and compared them in a paint program to real world pics of Blue Agave strats and color chart pics of Blue Agave (hovering swatches over the chart/guitar pic layers) and the DC colors are very close. The light blue metallic is a perfect match on the lighter parts of some images. Of course, one can't rely on online pics, since even with the best calibrated monitor, one can't be certain of the gear used and possible alterations on the image supplier's end.

As for nail polishes, Essie Blue Rhapsody is a reasonable comparison to my uncoated base color, but it's a little grayish. Some of the Sally Hansen Insta-Dri blues and greens are very close, but unfortunately the nearest colors are not metallic -- Brisk Blue is close, depending on lighting (which is the case with most colors). Wet n Wild's "I Need a Refresh-Mint" is pretty close to my clear coated Blue Agave chip. Which brings me to:

The problem is that the uncoated base color (on mine anyway) is a darker, deeper blue than the polyester cleared color. I don't know whether this is due to UV exposure (neck pocket being protected from it) or if the neck pocket was affected by environment (cig smoke, et al) and the poly clear protected the other paint from that.

I was under the impression that polyester clear doesn't age/yellow and doesn't affect base color over the long term. However, the greenish tint suggests otherwise. Also, most clear coats tend to darken base colors, which is the exact opposite of what has happened on my guitar -- I suppose Fender may have used paint (and/or technique) that intentionally floats the metal particles higher in the resin, which may cause this effect.

But again, it isn't just lighter, it's greener. The uncoated Blue Agave is not the same color as the polyester clear coated Blue Agave, at least on my particular guitar.
If I directly compare my guitar body to greens or just view it in the black-lined case, it looks light blue. If I compare it to blues, it looks green.

At this point, I'm not sure whether to match the uncoated darker blue and hope the new polyester clear coat lightens it and adds a greenish tint (which could take years and will never match unless artificially aged, since the old paint would continue to age/yellow), or match the clear coated blue-green and hope the new polyester clear doesn't alter it at all (or keeps up with the aging of the existing color).
I've done some auto body work in the past and occasional woodworking projects, but I have no experience with polyester paints.


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Post subject: Re: Identifying a color
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:45 pm
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Take the sample of paint to a auto paint supplier. They can match the sample and provide the coding mix for it.

If you rely on paint chip sample cards or what you see on the Internet. much depends on if the chip was sourced from the production paint or mixed specifically for the samples. Likewise, monitors are calibrated differently and one has to know the photography parameters that the image was taken from to accurately replicate the color.

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