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Post subject: Re: String-Through Body vs String-Through Bridge
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:26 am
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I agree with string through body giving a snappier tone,..... I notice it when I use my American Deluxe Jazz 5 or my Select Jazz bass.. :)


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Post subject: Re: String-Through Body vs String-Through Bridge
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:53 pm
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I think the string thru may give it a little more sustain too. I have a very hard time finding EX Rotos though. My 01 Jazz stock has only string thru capability . There are no holes for the stings to be top loaded. I find that odd but I guess it's okay because of that at least. It might make it rare in the long run.


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Post subject: Re: String-Through Body vs String-Through Bridge
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:19 am
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I think the Mustang Basses are string through only also. At least the Pawn Shop Series.

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Post subject: Re: String-Through Body vs String-Through Bridge
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:26 am
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My biggest and only problem with string thru is finding extra long Rotosounds. Talk about a pain in the $@!. It's been like that for years !! No I don't want Shakey Baker or Planet Zeon strings just because they are long enough to do the job. :roll: Those are wanker strings. I need real strings. Rotosound EXTRA LONG . That's all I know.


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Post subject: Re: String-Through Body vs String-Through Bridge
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:03 am
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Getting in to this discussion a bit late... However, I had some time this morning, so I set up an Electrovoice studio mic in front of my Peavey Max115 and ran that mic output into a computer program called "Audacity". Using my Schecter Stiletto Elite 5, I tuned up and then measured out a single string center pull of 3/16 of an inch with a small ruler and recorded the sustain with the thru-body string mount. I viewed the waveform in "Audacity" until there was no remaining wave (flatline) on all 5 strings. B string showed 19.1 seconds, E string showed 17.75 seconds, A string was the same as the E string, D string was 15.8 seconds and G was 14.3 seconds. Reminder - these times were monitored on-screen with audio waveform decay to zero. This was not "by human ear" for sustain perception in a room.

I then remounted the strings at the bridge mount on the Schecter, retuned and played awhile to have things settle in again. I then retuned a second time and did the same sustain tests. B string 18.6 seconds, E string 17.3 seconds, A string 16.9 seconds, D string 16.1 seconds and G string 14.9 seconds.

The comparison shows mixed results with thru-body mount having more low frequency sustain and bridge mount having more high frequency sustain. I did the tests only to compare Schecter Stiletto Elite 5 string sustain with all conditions being equal. This may or may not apply to a Fender bass with both string mount options available.

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Post subject: Re: String-Through Body vs String-Through Bridge
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:04 am
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My biggest and only problem with string thru is finding extra long Rotosounds. Talk about a pain in the $@!. It's been like that for years !! No I don't want Shakey Baker or Planet Zeon strings just because they are long enough to do the job. :roll: Those are wanker strings. I need real strings. Rotosound EXTRA LONG . That's all I know.


D'Addario 34" long scale strings i've used, fit well on either through the body, or straight to the bridge. I only use D'Addario long scale strings so I don'y know about any other brand strings' fit.

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Post subject: Re: String-Through Body vs String-Through Bridge
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:42 pm
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PaducahLuke wrote:
Getting in to this discussion a bit late... However, I had some time this morning, so I set up an Electrovoice studio mic in front of my Peavey Max115 and ran that mic output into a computer program called "Audacity". Using my Schecter Stiletto Elite 5, I tuned up and then measured out a single string center pull of 3/16 of an inch with a small ruler and recorded the sustain with the thru-body string mount. I viewed the waveform in "Audacity" until there was no remaining wave (flatline) on all 5 strings. B string showed 19.1 seconds, E string showed 17.75 seconds, A string was the same as the E string, D string was 15.8 seconds and G was 14.3 seconds. Reminder - these times were monitored on-screen with audio waveform decay to zero. This was not "by human ear" for sustain perception in a room.

I then remounted the strings at the bridge mount on the Schecter, retuned and played awhile to have things settle in again. I then retuned a second time and did the same sustain tests. B string 18.6 seconds, E string 17.3 seconds, A string 16.9 seconds, D string 16.1 seconds and G string 14.9 seconds.

The comparison shows mixed results with thru-body mount having more low frequency sustain and bridge mount having more high frequency sustain. I did the tests only to compare Schecter Stiletto Elite 5 string sustain with all conditions being equal. This may or may not apply to a Fender bass with both string mount options available.



I think a Fender will sustain longer and I think a Fender P sustains longer than a J. I am not Mr Know -it- all but I know him. He works where I used to. :D


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Post subject: Re: String-Through Body vs String-Through Bridge
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:47 pm
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Mr. Nylon wrote:
stroker vance wrote:
My biggest and only problem with string thru is finding extra long Rotosounds. Talk about a pain in the $@!. It's been like that for years !! No I don't want Shakey Baker or Planet Zeon strings just because they are long enough to do the job. :roll: Those are wanker strings. I need real strings. Rotosound EXTRA LONG . That's all I know.


D'Addario 34" long scale strings i've used, fit well on either through the body, or straight to the bridge. I only use D'Addario long scale strings so I don'y know about any other brand strings' fit.



I SAID = No Shakey Baker or Planet Zeon strings !! "D My Dario" falls into that sub category Bister Dylod. I may have to give you a bad grade on the final. OH and NO NYLONS !!! Even if they are my favorite string in the Solar System. HA!!! :lol:


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Post subject: Re: String-Through Body vs String-Through Bridge
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 4:27 pm
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Getting in to this discussion a bit late... However, I had some time this morning, so I set up an Electrovoice studio mic in front of my Peavey Max115 and ran that mic output into a computer program called "Audacity". Using my Schecter Stiletto Elite 5, I tuned up and then measured out a single string center pull of 3/16 of an inch with a small ruler and recorded the sustain with the thru-body string mount. I viewed the waveform in "Audacity" until there was no remaining wave (flatline) on all 5 strings. B string showed 19.1 seconds, E string showed 17.75 seconds, A string was the same as the E string, D string was 15.8 seconds and G was 14.3 seconds. Reminder - these times were monitored on-screen with audio waveform decay to zero. This was not "by human ear" for sustain perception in a room.

I then remounted the strings at the bridge mount on the Schecter, retuned and played awhile to have things settle in again. I then retuned a second time and did the same sustain tests. B string 18.6 seconds, E string 17.3 seconds, A string 16.9 seconds, D string 16.1 seconds and G string 14.9 seconds.

The comparison shows mixed results with thru-body mount having more low frequency sustain and bridge mount having more high frequency sustain. I did the tests only to compare Schecter Stiletto Elite 5 string sustain with all conditions being equal. This may or may not apply to a Fender bass with both string mount options available.


Nice information, perhaps not relevant to Fender, but still very interesting. Thanks for posting. Hope you have had enough sense to leave WI.....I enjoyed the high winds, tornadoes and below freezing temps this past weekend. Glad to be home.

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Post subject: Re: String-Through Body vs String-Through Bridge
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:50 am
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Nice information, perhaps not relevant to Fender, but still very interesting. Thanks for posting. Hope you have had enough sense to leave WI.....I enjoyed the high winds, tornadoes and below freezing temps this past weekend. Glad to be home.


At the moment, I'm in southern Alabama on a brief tour. Just one more gig to do, then some vacation time with family and then back to Wisconsin for the holidays.

Thanks for the comments on the Schecter test. It would be interesting to have a comparison thread of sustain times between Fender models and even possibly between brands here in the forum somewhere, but if that happens, a standard setup for monitoring would have to be established to get rid of as many variables and possible and to make the testing posted by members here relevant.

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Post subject: Re: String-Through Body vs String-Through Bridge
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:14 pm
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I need a stop watch I guess. Or tell me the criteria for testing too.

Maybe one of us should start a new topic on the sustain test ?


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Post subject: Re: String-Through Body vs String-Through Bridge
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:06 am
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Or a disocilator.


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Post subject: Re: String-Through Body vs String-Through Bridge
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:18 am
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linnin wrote:
My new Jazz bass is string-through. Why? What is the sonic benefit over bridge-through?


IMO...Nothing.

It's great for different lenght strings though.


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Post subject: Re: String-Through Body vs String-Through Bridge
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:00 pm
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Rod Trussbroken ?


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