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Post subject: Re: An American Made Geddly Lee Jazz...
Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:02 pm
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as you see .......I LOVE GEEDY LEE!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Post subject: Re: An American Made Geddly Lee Jazz...
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:13 am
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I really haven't read this thread until just now and there were some earlier posts about USA quality vs. Japanese quality plus some slightly inaccurate info given.

Where the Japanese shops shine is in woodworking, finishing, fit and fretwork. Yes there they are on par with USA quality and the argument could be made about the Japanese having an edge here and there in one of those areas. That is incredible, especially considering the massive quantities of instruments they turn out. You see they are making not just Fender but about every other quality brand as well. They do just as well on the other brands too.

However the shortcomings on a Japanese instrument in my view make them inferior to USA instruments. First the electronics. True they have gotten better since the lawsuit era, but the electronics still lag far behind the USA stuff. It just doesn't sound the same. Second the hardware. While better than some other sources, the Japanese hardware just isn't the same quality metal as on the USA instruments whether Standards or Deluxes. Unfortunately, very often the electronics and hardware on a Japanese Fender are not interchangeable with the USA parts without modifications to the instrument either.

Fender did not "retool their operations" in the early 1980's. FMIC was for all practical purposes a startup again and all they had was the brand names, the patents and records. They had no spare parts, jigs, equipment or staff. It wasn't retooling their operations, it was starting over from square one. They didn't even have a plant to retool and it would be a long time before they would be making guitars in the USA. There was no choice if the brand was to stay alive except to turn to outsourced production. Another correction is that FMIC execs did not go to Japan to see the first legit Japanese Fenders, they were shipped to the USA and they saw them here. They looked great, played fine and sounded good enough to save the brand.

I own Japanese, USA and MIM Fenders. They each have their strong points. In my judgment the USA ones are still the best overall.

Now here's a question. Are Japanese made Epiphones as good or better than USA Gibsons of the same model? Nobody would even take that question seriously. The Japanese Epiphones were made by the same people that make some of the Japanese Fender stuff.

As for the MIM stuff, it's great! I prefer MIM basses over the Japanese basses I've played lately. They SOUND better anyway. They might not be as pretty, but gosh they sound good.


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Post subject: Re: An American Made Geddly Lee Jazz...
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:28 am
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^ Interesting, especially about the electronics not being interchangeable. At least, as far as pickups go, I have not run into this, My Geddy Lee is supposed to have Fender " Vintage Jazz " pickups in it. Are you saying that these are made in Japan, and if I bought a set from Fender, it might not fit in the Geddy Lee ? I especially like the neck on the Geddy Lee, and wish I could get that " slim profile " neck on another Jazz model, no matter where it was made.


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Post subject: Re: An American Made Geddly Lee Jazz...
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 9:01 am
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When I bought my Geddy Lee Jazz bass in 2006 (& I'm still yet to have an issue with the pickups or electronics) I was told the Vintage Jazz pickups are made in the the states as is the BADASS II Bridge but the pots are Japanese...as far as I know


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Post subject: Re: An American Made Geddly Lee Jazz...
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:17 pm
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The only electronics that might not be interchangeable would be the pickups, only because certain models use equal length pickups whereas others use unequal length pickups. Besides that it's just wire, pots and a jack unless you're referring to any kind of special wiring which would require modification with any bass.


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Post subject: Re: An American Made Geddly Lee Jazz...
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:04 am
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guys, excuse me for offtop, but this forum is realy huuuugggee!

i want to buy one used japanesse Geddy Lee jazz bass. Wikipedia told that the date since Fender Corp. started made this bass is 1998 and this one, which i'll want to buy is 1994 - is that possible? i really don't want anyone to trick me. help me please with advice or something etc.

p.s. i'll get photos with serial number later. just too much excited to wait)))


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Post subject: Re: An American Made Geddly Lee Jazz...
Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:47 am
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Fender Japan started production of The Geddy Lee Jazz Bass in 1998 the Seriel number should start with the letter A + 6 digits (1997-1998) or B + 6 digits (1998-1999) & above the seriel number on the back of the neck it should say "Crafted in Japan".

Geddy Lee's signature should be on under the tuners on the back of the head, this bass should also have a BadassII bridge, it should be Black with a white pickguard (but these are usually swapped out for other colors by the owner) it should have a maple neck & fret board with black square block markers.

If the serial number on the back of the neck starts with anyone of these letters N,O,P,Q + 6 digits (1993-1994) & reads "Made In Japan" I doubt it's a Geddy Lee Jazz Bass.

I should mention though that I believe the new one's now say "Made in Japan"

Mine says "Crafted in Japan & reads S + 6 digits Making it a 2006-2007 model.
I bought it in May of 2006. :)


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Post subject: Re: An American Made Geddly Lee Jazz...
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:02 am
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The Geddy Lee Jazz is also available in 3-tone burst since 2009.

Unfortunately the cherry red FMT he uses for alternate tunings on certain songs was never put into general production.

Ditto for the 5-string version and the CS editions with the alchemical Amalgamation stickers.

Dillion has produced the DLB 80, which was supposedly an accurate replica of his black '72 Jazz. This bass in no longer made.

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Post subject: Re: An American Made Geddly Lee Jazz...
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:39 am
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Yeah I forgot to mention the 3 tone burst available since 2009 thanks :) .......I assumed he was looking at a Black one because of the year.

I love Geddy's Cherry Red Custom shop Jazz bass...wish it & the Alchemical amalgamation sticker Jazz basses were available ...nice basses :)
& let's not forget the Custom shop Jaco Tribute he used on The Snakes & Arrows tour
for the song "malignant Narcissism.
(& the Rickenbacker 4001 usually still makes an appearance on a song or two in concert.... :)


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Post subject: Re: An American Made Geddly Lee Jazz...
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 10:40 pm
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James Coderre wrote:
Fender Japan started production of The Geddy Lee Jazz Bass in 1998 the Seriel number should start with the letter A + 6 digits (1997-1998) or B + 6 digits (1998-1999) & above the seriel number on the back of the neck it should say "Crafted in Japan".

Geddy Lee's signature should be on under the tuners on the back of the head, this bass should also have a BadassII bridge, it should be Black with a white pickguard (but these are usually swapped out for other colors by the owner) it should have a maple neck & fret board with black square block markers.

If the serial number on the back of the neck starts with anyone of these letters N,O,P,Q + 6 digits (1993-1994) & reads "Made In Japan" I doubt it's a Geddy Lee Jazz Bass.

I should mention though that I believe the new one's now say "Made in Japan"

Mine says "Crafted in Japan & reads S + 6 digits Making it a 2006-2007 model.
I bought it in May of 2006. :)



Seller is trying convince me, that this bass was in 1994 made and that he sold older models before. Although the serial number indicate, that it was in the same as yours period of building. And badass bridge and Geddy's sign on back of the head exist.
Just so much afraid to buy fake one.

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Post subject: Re: An American Made Geddly Lee Jazz...
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:19 pm
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chromeface wrote:
The Geddy Lee Jazz is also available in 3-tone burst since 2009.

Unfortunately the cherry red FMT he uses for alternate tunings on certain songs was never put into general production.

Ditto for the 5-string version and the CS editions with the alchemical Amalgamation stickers.

Dillion has produced the DLB 80, which was supposedly an accurate replica of his black '72 Jazz. This bass in no longer made.

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was it with sign on the headstock? and on photo of replica badass bridge also absent.

please look on my photo and tell me something))


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Post subject: Re: An American Made Geddly Lee Jazz...
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 7:17 am
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The bass you want to buy looks like it is definately a Fender Geddy Lee Jazz bass, & yes the seriel number on the back of the bass starts with S + 6 digits ......as I said in an earlier post I bought mine in early May 2006 my seriel number is S048112 The seriel number on the bass you want to buy is S058952

as you can see my bass was made before the bass you want to buy & mine is an early 2006 model so I'd have to say the one you want is a late 2006 or early 2007 model.....it's still a good bass & yes it's a Geddy Lee model but it is not a 1994 model.

you & the seller can check for yourself here on Fender's website:
http://www.fender.com/support/articles/ ... uct-dating

did the seller buy this bass New? if not maybe the person he bought it from told him it was a 1994? I see there's also some belt buckle scratches on the back of the bass (no biggie most will probably come out with Planet Waves step 1 polish)

If you like this bass then buy it as it is a Geddy Lee (2006-2007 model) & it's worth $500.-$600. Dollars used & there's a lot of these floating around out there.....or you could pay $1000. & buy one new :D


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Post subject: Re: An American Made Geddly Lee Jazz...
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 11:33 pm
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James Coderre wrote:
The bass you want to buy looks like it is definately a Fender Geddy Lee Jazz bass, & yes the seriel number on the back of the bass starts with S + 6 digits ......as I said in an earlier post I bought mine in early May 2006 my seriel number is S048112 The seriel number on the bass you want to buy is S058952

as you can see my bass was made before the bass you want to buy & mine is an early 2006 model so I'd have to say the one you want is a late 2006 or early 2007 model.....it's still a good bass & yes it's a Geddy Lee model but it is not a 1994 model.

you & the seller can check for yourself here on Fender's website:
http://www.fender.com/support/articles/ ... uct-dating

did the seller buy this bass New? if not maybe the person he bought it from told him it was a 1994? I see there's also some belt buckle scratches on the back of the bass (no biggie most will probably come out with Planet Waves step 1 polish)

If you like this bass then buy it as it is a Geddy Lee (2006-2007 model) & it's worth $500.-$600. Dollars used & there's a lot of these floating around out there.....or you could pay $1000. & buy one new :D


thank you so much for reply! i'll be able to reduce price )) have a nice day! thank you again


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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:06 am
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You're welcome EdisonUA & Good Luck. :)


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Post subject: Re: An American Made Geddly Lee Jazz...
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:01 am
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I recalled Geddy using six-string basses as well...


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