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Post subject: Re: Do you like Jacos' bass tone?
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:28 pm
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I play pretty much the same way, I rarely touch my amp settings,I occasionally will adjust the volume knob for my neck pickup ( it's usually only a quarter of the way on...sometimes halfway on with the bridge pickup at full volume.

I'm mainly a finger player I usually rest my thumb on the edge of the bridge pickup and my hand us usually over the bridge pickup or it's plucking the strings between the bridge pickup & the bridge , when slapping my thumb & hand are on the neck.


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Post subject: Re: Do you like Jacos' bass tone?
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:23 pm
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Since I only play "A" I do most of that just a little in front or right over the pickup on my P bass. P bass= best bass for playing "A" anywhere on the neck.


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Post subject: Re: Do you like Jacos' bass tone?
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:06 pm
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I forgot to mention that I sometimes rest my thumb on the E string while playing notes on the lower strings........ actually there was a column in Bassplayer magazine recently that touched upon this technique (I guess you could call it) saying that while resting your thumb on the E string it gives your fingers more freedom to get to the lower strings.
especially if your playing say ...Jaco or Rush.......( hmmmm & all these yrs I was doing it because it felt comfortable) :lol:


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Post subject: Re: Do you like Jacos' bass tone?
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:12 am
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Since I play one of the Steve Bailey 6's I have a Semi-floating thumb thing going on. If I'm playing on the B-E-A-D portion I rest my thumb on the top of the pickup or the edge of the neck. If I'm playing the E-A-D-G portion I usually move between resting my thumb on the B or E string depending where I am playing in that 4 string group usually my thumb is positioned so that on top of resting on/muting the E string it also mutes the B string. If I'm playing on the 4 high strings I usually rest on the A or E string with my thumb laying across both the B and E strings for muting.

I also use a 3 finger plucking technique Ring-Middle-Index like tapping your fingers on a table ala Sheehan and Claypool. For extra muting I usually have my pinky resting either one or two strings below where I am playing.

Then there's all the fancy techniques that I won't get into here.

It's funny I didn't really analyze my right hand technique that much until I got the new Fender. I think I actually changed my technique a little to adjust to the new instrument. In turn there is already a little divit in the finish around the bridge pick-up where my thumb nail scratched into the finish. I think we have adjusted to each other.

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Post subject: Re: Do you like Jacos' bass tone?
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:47 pm
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Same here ...I've never actually disected my plucking style before or rather I really don't think about how I play the bass ....but as I participate on this board & especially on this thead it's making me think about how I play.

Just like many of you who rest your thumb on the E string (I mainly do it to have more freedom across the strings)... but I also do it to mute the E string from rattling
(redusing unwanted noise)........ & I will occaisionally (while resting my thumb on the E string ...I'll also have my pinky lightly resting on the strings just in front of the Bridge....(sorta like a mute... ) depending on what type of song or music I'm playing.

Funny thing (& pretty cool) it seems like many of us here use a lot of the same fingering & plucking techniques .... :D


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Post subject: Re: Do you like Jacos' bass tone?
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:41 pm
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well I'll tell ever since we started talking about playing technique 3 days ago I've been finding my self thinking about what my plucking hand is doing as I play........I'm messing with my head!! :lol: anyway I just say to myself STOP THAT!! & my concentration goes bad to what I'm doing on the fret board.........this has been a great thread of conversation with regard to everyones technique though. :mrgreen:


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Post subject: Re: Do you like Jacos' bass tone?
Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:40 pm
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Of the few I play of his, such as Birdland, it works best for me if my right hand is a little closer to the bridge. The tone is closer, and the strings a little tighter to allow for quicker movement. But that's on my present cheapo. Might be a different story when my new J bass arrives.

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Post subject: Re: Do you like Jacos' bass tone?
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:02 am
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When you switch from playing your cheapo bass To playing a jazz bass you'll probably still want to play with your plucking hand near the bridge (for quicker & tighter movement)
I play my jazz basses (& bass period for that matter) in this position most of the time unless I'm slapping.


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Post subject: Re: Do you like Jacos' bass tone?
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:23 am
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Hey since we're on the Jaco topic....I've been having this wierd thing going on with the bridge pickup on my Jaco Fretless....for the last 3 months I found that while I'm playing the bass my bridge pickup will cut out & if I take my hand & smack the pickup ....the pickup will turn on again....thinking there may be a bad connection I opened up the bell plate & everything seems secure......(though I'm starting to think maybe there's a issue somewhere in one of the wires or maybe it's to pot???
in all my years of playing this has never happened to me.....What do you guys think it might be?
I will inevitably be bringing it in to get repaired but I just wanted to get your thoughts
......could it be the pickup it self? (though I highly doubt it)... :!: :!:


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Post subject: Re: Do you like Jacos' bass tone?
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:50 pm
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I have to say that I really can't stand Jaco's tone, I feel that it gets lost in the mix to often for my tastes, I also have to admit that I am not the biggest Jaco fan, however I can understand why so many are, as I have given the man and his music many a fair listen and the jazz doodlings are not my thing at all, but there are times when I hear Jaco play a line or a riff that does make my jaw hit the floor and I think "how the hell....." Jimi Hendrix does the same thing so I would have to say that Mr Pastorious is in good company!


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Post subject: Re: Do you like Jacos' bass tone?
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:26 pm
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The thing about Jaco (as with Hendrix) was that Back in the when he came on the scene
jazz bass guitar wasn't really being played in this fashion ( maybe with the exception of Stanley Clarke) & it's his contribution that inspired a whole generation of bassists & musicians after him & it was an influence in the role bassists in jazz bands play today.

Just my thoughts on the subject...


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Post subject: Re: Do you like Jacos' bass tone?
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 2:38 pm
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That I can accept, infact Jaco, like the Ox changed how the bass player fits in the band today and thank the lord for it!!!!!!!! play what comes from the heart!!!!!!


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Post subject: Re: Do you like Jacos' bass tone?
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 7:32 pm
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James Coderre wrote:
The thing about Jaco (as with Hendrix) was that Back in the when he came on the scene
jazz bass guitar wasn't really being played in this fashion ( maybe with the exception of Stanley Clarke) & it's his contribution that inspired a whole generation of bassists & musicians after him & it was an influence in the role bassists in jazz bands play today.

Just my thoughts on the subject...

I saw Return to Forever in 1976 (Corea, Clarke, DeMeola, White), the Romantic Warrior era. I was an aspiring young bass player and was floored by Clarke. Actually floored by the whole show. The warm up band was Larry Coryell. His drummer Alphonse Mouzon may have stolen half the night. That night forever influenced the way I look at music.

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Post subject: Re: Do you like Jacos' bass tone?
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:39 pm
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Bunny Brunell- (Cab band etc) for close resemblence to Jaco.

Doodleing is not a fair way to describe playing virtuoso Jazz bass. It very much more than that. You can't just dismiss it as doodleing. That is almost like an insult to a real Jazz bassist.


Much attention should be payed to the plucking hand.

There is a level of expertise at which great Jazz bass players operate. A good comparrison is with sax players. When you get to that high level ,different players may sound very similar in the chops they play. It takes a serious listen to hear all the different thechniques. It's up to the player to try and come up with new stuff.


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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:49 pm
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