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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:05 am
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We do seem to have control of the board here. Ironic, how that has played out here. It does seem funny discussing non-Fender basses, and amps as much as we seem to do. I don't do social media, so the Fender site is ok with me. I was going to the Gibson / Epiphone site, but that is like death warmed over. It's too depressing for me. TB is ok, I can navigate around for threads of interest.

I can see how the Rumble 350 can be a good go too. A bit easier to move to another room if needed too. The Ampeg / Fender must be a great combination. I do prefer 12's, but 10's are a good standard, as they seem to be. Even more than 15's.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:11 am
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I know, I'm surprised we've never got in trouble with the mods over that. I guess since it wouldn't be busy otherwise, they let it slide. It's like those westerns where the town is a ghost town because the silver ran out, but there's a few holdouts hanging out in the saloon, probably because where in the hell else are they going to go at that point? :P I'm actually thinking of that movie "The Outlaw Josey Wales" with that.

I've never joined the Gibson/Epiphone site, but have read it, usually from links from internet searches. I've seen your posts on there, actually. I've never owned an Epiphone or Gibson, so that's why I never did. I wouldn't have anything to post in relation to it, at least to start out with. That used to be a busy place, but I guess like anything else, things come and go, and people move on. I remember when pretty much everyone had some sort of forum, or other, then the other social media things happened, like Facebook, but even that is kind of going by the wayside in a lot of ways. I guess it's probably best not to really think about it too much, otherwise it will get really depressing. :roll:

It is a great amp, albeit a little heavier because of the MDF, but that also contributes to it's low end, too, I think. It's the one amp I've never had to struggle with to get a good tone out of the violin bass with, for some reason. I know the pickups on it aren't the best, which is why I've had trouble getting a clearer tone, but never did using the Rumble.

The Ampeg does alright with it, since it does have more EQ options, and fidelity, than the Orange did, but I do have to raise the volume with it, if I also use the Ibanez, which is how I found out how weak those pickups were in the first place with the violin bass. I plugged both of them into the Ampeg when I first got it to test it out. I guess the 10"s work good for that configuration with 4 of them in one cab, and handling the power. I do like them, but I've also really liked 15"s, and a 2 x 15" cab, but of course with that size cab can be problematic with weight and size. I have to have the room to haul the damned thing, and be able to move it, especially up and down stairs. Then again, they make everything much lighter these days, so who knows? 12"s would be a cool option, as well. I'm not as familiar using them, other than a single 12" in a little combo amp, like that Peavey Basic 60 we had.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:40 am
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If Fender had just used regular board, in place of the MDF, those Rumbles would have been so much better. The sound was fine, but the weight was somewhat Marshall style.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:37 am
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That's true, they are almost twice the weight of the 3rd generation models, which they went with plywood with. I'd be curious to take my 2nd generation Rumble 350 combo side by side with a 3rd generation Rumble 500 combo (I suppose that's the replacement,) and see what sonic differences there might be. Sure the 500 is 500 watts, and the 350 is 350 watts, but the 500 is 350 watts internally, and you need an extension cab for the full 500, and the Rumble 350 is actually rated around 400 watts, according to it's schematics that I had seen. They both have a 2 x 10" configuration, as well.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 12:07 pm
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That would be an interesting comparison between the two Rumbles.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:48 am
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Yeah, I think so, too. You know, I almost came close to finding that out, since at one point I was seriously considering getting the Rumble 500 combo a couple of years ago, when I was trying to sell the Orange the first time around. That whole thing never worked out to my favor, so it didn't happen like that, and then eventually the Ampeg deal happened when it did down the road.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:22 am
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Didn't you have the 410 cab before you acquired the Ampeg PF-800? If you did, and could have swung it, the Rumble 500 Combo would have been cool with that 410 cab. 500 Watts, and 610's.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:29 am
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I did have the Rumble 4 x 10" cab before the Ampeg, since I used it with the Orange and did a gig with that setup. Originally, I had an 18" and 2 x 10" Carvin cabs, which I got a Celestion to replace the 18" speaker. The thing that happened with getting the Rumble 500, is they jacked the price on it $100, and at the time I wanted to make some extra cash besides the amount I needed to buy that amp, when I had the Orange for sale the first time. I think I was trying to get $700 at the lowest for the Orange, and I wanted to make an extra $200 on the side, besides the $499.99 (might as well say $500) the Rumble originally was. I just didn't or for whatever reason could justify getting rid of the Orange for that Rumble 500 because of that, because there was also the thing of giving up 1000 watts for 500, and Peavey also had a 1000 watt head (with a ten band graphic EQ built in, which would have helped with the violin bass,) which was something like $450, at the time, which looked more appealing to me after that.

If Fender didn't raise the price of it, I would have bought it, but then again, the people interesting in buying it flaked out, so it all became a moot point, and I kept the Orange, until ironically enough, I sold it for $500, which gave me the cash to get the Ampeg PF-800, which was $485, later on down the road. That might have even been a year later, or pretty close to one, at least several months.

The funny thing about all of this, no matter what, I still came out ahead, because I got the Orange for only $360, so unless I had sold that amp for cheaper than that, which I'd never do, because it was $1049 new, and the cheapest I'd seen them on the used market was $700, so even what I got for it, I profited from, and still had an amp with in the same wattage area, plus other features. Of course, if Fender decided to put out the Rumble 800 just a little earlier, than also would have been a different story, but you know how that goes. :roll:

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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:40 am
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Sometimes I almost think the 300 watts difference wouldn't have mattered, with the 500 watts going through the 6x10's in the 500 Combo, and the 4X10 cab. The full sound at 500 watts may have been pretty formidable. Not of course in the same league, but as I've stated about the HD75 with the 12" driver, and the 7 bar EQ, does have a boost of both tone and power. The Humbucking pup is subsidizing the power into the amp like an active setup. This EB-0 has reopened my eyes to my old ways of playing, and thinking of very playable gear. Image

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:04 am
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I know what you mean, with 500 watts total going into a 6 x 10" speaker configuration. That isn't nothing to sneeze at, considering I'm just running 400 watts into a 4 x 10" speaker configuration as it is, with 8 ohms, and it's fine. I guess I was being stubborn about it at the time, but then again, I liked the idea of running a head and cab, and not just a combo. Also, I probably would have just mainly used the combo and the cab would have sat around, so at least with the head, I can use the cab.

I think it worked out pretty well in the end, although I'm not going to lie and say I'm not bummed out about the whole Rumble 800 thing coming out when it did. Not to knock the Ampeg at all, since it's a great amp, but if given the choice, I would go with the Fender over it, if I could. It has a few extra things going for it that would work for me, like the ability to run 2 ohms (if for some bizarre reason I'd need to, but there was a time when I could have having both an 8 and 4 ohm cab,) and I've noticed Fender plays very well with my violin bass. I don't know why, but it just does.

I'm curious, have you tried the EB-0 in any other amps at the stores, or did you just order that one from a site and not play it through anything else. I know it does sound pretty damned good though a 4 x 10" cab, that I can vouch for, at least out of memory.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:31 am
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I know the timing was not in your favor about the release of the Rumble 800HD. I really like that head. I did run the EB-0 at GC when I got it. A MarkBass Mini CMD 112, and a Rumble 200. So far those two and the HD75 are fine sounding combinations with it. I guess I should have tried it through a 4X10 cab. Maybe though I was better off by not doing that, I can't afford to do any switching of amps.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:37 am
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Yeah, I know. Only if it came out a month earlier. Oh, well. What can you do? :roll:

Isn't the Rumble 200 equipped with a 15" speaker? How does that sound with it, if it does? I know what you mean about being able to afford switching out any amps. :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 10:36 am
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PaulLF wrote:
Yeah, I know. Only if it came out a month earlier. Oh, well. What can you do? :roll:

Isn't the Rumble 200 equipped with a 15" speaker? How does that sound with it, if it does? I know what you mean about being able to afford switching out any amps. :roll:


You're right. I always mix up the Rumble Combo numbers. The 100 is the twelve I ran it through. I'm doing fine with the HD75, and can do with out a GAS problem in the future. I really don't foresee one though. The Rumble is somewhat like the HD75, where it doesn't support an external cab, but the 100 has a direct out, and 25 watts over the 75. I do however like the 7 Band EQ on the 75 that boots the dB's on it.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:12 am
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Oh, so you didn't try it out through a 15" speaker then?

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:46 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
Oh, so you didn't try it out through a 15" speaker then?


No,.... I was more interested in how the EB-0 played through 12's. 15's Are great, but my ears are very accustom to the sounds of 12's.

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