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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:13 pm
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The EQ's on the HD150, and the HD75 are the same. I just looked it up in the manual that covers both Combos.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:31 pm
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I suppose they might have different voicings than what the HA2500 had.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:54 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
I suppose they might have different voicings than what the HA2500 had.


If they do, I sure like the 7 band EQ on the HD Combo Series. Hartke has exceeded my expectations, and I'm so much getting to being a Hartke fan for myself. At this time, and probably forward, Hartke's pricing is close to what I could almost afford. I know, famous last words from me, but I can't for see changing what I have out any more. This last deal was an even trade out. :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 9:12 pm
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Hey, maybe you found the right brand that really clicks with you. It doesn't always have to be the usual suspects (Fender or Ampeg, to name a few) to even have to do that. Then again, Hartke isn't exactly some no name brand, since it's had some famous people use and endorse it.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 8:12 am
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PaulLF wrote:
Hey, maybe you found the right brand that really clicks with you. It doesn't always have to be the usual suspects (Fender or Ampeg, to name a few) to even have to do that. Then again, Hartke isn't exactly some no name brand, since it's had some famous people use and endorse it.


I agree without any qualms about it. I have found the brand of amps that does what I prefer anyway. Thinking back now, I had a a couple of Hartke cabs I should have hung on too. The Super Bassman / HD115 was the top of the list. The TX600 / HD210 was definitely second.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:26 pm
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I imagine that Super Bassman with that HyDrive must have had a really beefy, yet punchy sound to it, especially cranked up. I have to admit, as much as I love the Ampeg, I love the sound of the Fender amps probably even more. I don't know, I'm on the fence about it, but I do use the Rumble a lot, and any bass I've ever plugged into it, it's always sounded good, even that violin bass, which actually sounds best through that amp.

If someone were to trade me the Ampeg for a Rumble 800 head, I'd do it in an instant. At least they both cost the same new. It's not just because of the 2 ohm thing, I just generally prefer the sound you get out of the Fender amps, and you don't have to do a lot of tweaking to get a good tone from them. I think also that the fact the violin bass sounds so good through it probably is also a major factor.

As much as problematic as that bass can be, and other hollow body basses, like an Epiphone, would be a lot better, I do have a sentimental attachment to it, because it's the type of bass I've wanted since I was 16, and I was finally able to get one, albeit a cheap copy. I mean, it's not the worst, and I've gigged with it, but obviously there's room for improvement, at least with the pickups. It's always sounded good through the Fender, though. For some strange reason, they just work well together, which I do believe has to do with the amp.

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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 3:25 pm
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Fender amps a re hard to beat. I just couldn't get settled in with a Rumble Combo. There was always something that didn't work for me, either in the specs, or the cost. I totally agree with getting a Rumble 800HD amp, if it ever arose. $600. Is a somewhat reasonable price, as is the PF-800 also.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:27 pm
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I know my Rumble is a lot different than the 3rd generation models, because it's MDF instead of plywood, which in spite of the weight differences and MDF can be risky for damage in comparison, I think the density of it must give something to it's bass response. That's one thing I've noticed about it. It does have that going for it, especially when I use the violin bass. I don't know how the 3rd generation are with that, since I've never played through them, but heard online demos. I know you've had them, like you've said, and have seen.

That is a decent price for it, and AMS has them all of the time discounted, at least the Ampegs. I've only seen the Rumble 800 discounted once, for an open box model. Maybe they deal with more of the Ampegs, that's why there's always open box models, and things like that for demos, or whatever. The Rumble 800 hasn't been around that long, so who knows how those are moving yet. Hopefully, they'll do well and be around for a long time.

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Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:08 pm
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You said it yourself about the MDF having a bit better tone quality to it. My Marshall MB Series amps were MDF also, and had a great tone as well. That's why they started using MDF for stereo speaker cabs, over plywood. But I don't really notice the difference anymore between MDF, and plywood in bass amps. If the volume is up there, I really don't think it's negligible between the two. But that's just me though.

I really don't know how the Rumble 800HD's are doing. I also hope they're going to be around for awhile myself. I haven't heard any negative words about the head either. 800 Watts does seem to be the new higher watts ceiling for now, other than the 1,000 watters' around.

I can say, the one I had sure played well with the Ampeg SVT-4140HLF. I had the full 800 watts running through that 4 ohm cab. Talk about overkill for the room I'm playing in, in a house. :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:23 pm
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I guess since MDF is solid, albeit molded, and plywood does have layers sandwiched together, and there might be some spaces in there from knots in the wood, or whatever. Of course, plywood is more durable where the elements are concerned, not that you'd want to get your amps wet to begin with, and probably can take damage a little better.

Yeah, that's something you'd rock a big stage with. Did you ever crank the thing out of curiosity? I imagine it would have rattled some windows. It's still relatively a new amp, so I guess time will tell.

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Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:27 am
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PaulLF wrote:
I guess since MDF is solid, albeit molded, and plywood does have layers sandwiched together, and there might be some spaces in there from knots in the wood, or whatever. Of course, plywood is more durable where the elements are concerned, not that you'd want to get your amps wet to begin with, and probably can take damage a little better.

Yeah, that's something you'd rock a big stage with. Did you ever crank the thing out of curiosity? I imagine it would have rattled some windows. It's still relatively a new amp, so I guess time will tell.


I never got too loud with the Rumble / Ampeg setup. I always new what it was capable of doing, and in a small area, the isn't enough air volume to actually hear sometimes how loud its playing at. Some people don't understand that, and complain the amp isn't putting out the volume it should. Yep, the walls shook, and everything else did as well. The Super Bassman through the SVT-410HLF was no slouch either.
The HD75 HyDrive 12 is breaking nicely.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 1:00 pm
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That's true, I suppose there are some sort of sonic physics involved, with space, and all of that. That's probably why I had an issue with that 18" speaker, hooked up into that Orange head, and especially playing the violin bass at the end of using that setup. That speaker was also intended for subwoofer use in PA systems, as well, I think.

That's good to hear about the Hartke. Does it change much the longer you play through it?

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Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:38 pm
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The HD is getting a bit of a smoother punch to it as it breaks in. It's a gradual thing if you take it a bit easy on it at first. Since a single driver, I give it a bit to work in. No reason for me to blast the hell out of it.

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Post subject: Re: Bass Amp: if not a Fender, what do you use?
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2019 10:17 pm
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The thing I wonder about those speakers, especially the all aluminum models, is how well they'd fair with the weather conditions around here, especially the winter time. I guess not much different that traditional types, I don't know. I did play through them in NYC, and that place gets really cold, but then again, it probably never left the club it was in, and that place was probably pretty much climate controlled.

You know, despite the fact my basses might have been affected by the weather around here, especially in the office, I've had the Rumble amp in here for a couple of years now, and (knock on wood) it's held up with the temperature changes. Then again, it doesn't have to deal with string tension like a bass neck does.

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Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2019 7:06 am
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The thing I wonder about those speakers, especially the all aluminum models, is how well they'd fair with the weather conditions around here, especially the winter time. I guess not much different that traditional types, I don't know. I did play through them in NYC, and that place gets really cold, but then again, it probably never left the club it was in, and that place was probably pretty much climate controlled.

You know, despite the fact my basses might have been affected by the weather around here, especially in the office, I've had the Rumble amp in here for a couple of years now, and (knock on wood) it's held up with the temperature changes. Then again, it doesn't have to deal with string tension like a bass neck does.


I would think the bass amp's drivers are less likely to have weather related issues, than bass necks would. The climate in house sure does help extend the life.

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