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Well, all I can tell you is,before I bought the Squier VM Jazz, I did a lot of research online about it (my situation precludes going to a music store to try one), reading about 225 or so user reviews and forum posts, and not one single negative comment from anyone of them, and my assessment after buying one is the same as theirs, it's a great instrument for a great price. AAMOF, not a few said tha tit is now their favorite bass, evn ober their own American and Mexican Fenders. If you never found a Squier or Mexican Fender to suit you, well that's too bad, but I think you do others a disservice by making the claim that all foreign made guitars are crap, because they are not. Are you sure you're not letting your prejudice against foreign instruments cloud your judgement when it comes to assessing them? When was thew last time you tried one? I assure you, I understand a few years ago the quality on Squiers and Mexican Fenders was suspect, but from all accounts both Indonesia (Squiers)and Mexico Fender Standards) have stepped up their quality significantly
And Dad, you say you never let your daughter buy any foreign inStrument under $500? How about letting her try them herselfand letting her decide on her own whether or not she likes them. And don't give me that nonsense claim that because something is more expensive that means it's better quality, price is not always a good indicator of that. Corporate America loves people who believe that kind of nonsense. More profit for them. Cheap does not always equal bad, just like expensive does not always equal good.
Really, if you check out the rest of the posts in this thread alone, and you'll see that most here would disagree with you, and this consensus seems to be universal in every web site I've read dealing with this particular subject.
Look, 'm not trying to bust yoiur hump or anything, your opinion is your opinion, if you don't like Squiers and Mexican Fenders, that's your right, but to categorically state they are garbage and one shouldn't even bother with them and you should only buy American, seems rather snobbish. Rather you should say,
"I don't like them, but if you try one and find you like, it you should go for it, regardless of cost or the name on the headstock."

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Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:35 am
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Not all Japanese Fenders are good, I've tried some that sounded dull and lifeless (same for the other 2 factories). I guess its really hit or miss. However, in terms of quality to price ratio I'd have to say the Japanese made ones are ahead. This doesnt mean they are better instruments, it just means they are priced more accordingly to their craftsmanship - if not underpriced. I find that Mexican made ones aren't that consistent, and that most of the production US guitars are (on average including the CS) a bit overpriced.



I once got a Gretsch bass that was made in Japan, and at the store when I bought it, it sounded great, but when I hooked it up to my amp at home, I got nothing from it. It couldn't have been the input chord because I tried a different one and it stil didn't work, and I tried a different amp and it still didn't work.

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Well, all I can tell you is,before I bought the Squier VM Jazz, I did a lot of research online about it (my situation precludes going to a music store to try one), reading about 225 or so user reviews and forum posts, and not one single negative comment from anyone of them, and my assessment after buying one is the same as theirs, it's a great instrument for a great price. AAMOF, not a few said tha tit is now their favorite bass, evn ober their own American and Mexican Fenders. If you never found a Squier or Mexican Fender to suit you, well that's too bad, but I think you do others a disservice by making the claim that all foreign made guitars are crap, because they are not. Are you sure you're not letting your prejudice against foreign instruments cloud your judgement when it comes to assessing them? When was thew last time you tried one? I assure you, I understand a few years ago the quality on Squiers and Mexican Fenders was suspect, but from all accounts both Indonesia (Squiers)and Mexico Fender Standards) have stepped up their quality significantly
And Dad, you say you never let your daughter buy any foreign inStrument under $500? How about letting her try them herselfand letting her decide on her own whether or not she likes them. And don't give me that nonsense claim that because something is more expensive that means it's better quality, price is not always a good indicator of that. Corporate America loves people who believe that kind of nonsense. More profit for them. Cheap does not always equal bad, just like expensive does not always equal good.
Really, if you check out the rest of the posts in this thread alone, and you'll see that most here would disagree with you, and this consensus seems to be universal in every web site I've read dealing with this particular subject.
Look, 'm not trying to bust yoiur hump or anything, your opinion is your opinion, if you don't like Squiers and Mexican Fenders, that's your right, but to categorically state they are garbage and one shouldn't even bother with them and you should only buy American, seems rather snobbish. Rather you should say,
"I don't like them, but if you try one and find you like, it you should go for it, regardless of cost or the name on the headstock."




I would reccommend a Squier to a begginnning bassists, and also to a few intermidiate/advanced bassists, because if your gonna buy a Squier, you need to find the right one. Some of them sound real bad, and some of them are ok. Speaking of cheap, a couple of months ago found a Fender Precision Bass for $5.00, but since its eBay, and the seller didn't give any details and had a no return policy, I didn't want to take a chance since the pickups could've been stripped out or soimething like that.

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err.. Ebay are a little bit risky..

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err.. Ebay are a little bit risky..



Right. Thats why I didn't buy it since it didn't have a description, either.

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the best thing to check in ebay buying,, is the reputation of the seller, and well if they are in a shop, or payment via paypal

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I don't think there is much difference between the 2 but I personally prefer the US made.


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US has better neck and feel to it.. plus the bridge gives better sustain and lighter tuning machines

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the best thing to check in ebay buying,, is the reputation of the seller, and well if they are in a shop, or payment via paypal

Right. My dad once bought a part for the engine of his old 1946 Chevrolet pickup truck, and the seller claimed the money but never sent theengine part. Unfortunately, dad forgot to check their reveiws, and only three reveiws of that persons' buyers were good. About 76 reveiws were bad.

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What I've not seen on this forum is if Fender changed wood type and finish on MiM Jazz bass over the years and if so, when and from what to what?

I bought my bass new in 1990 for around $400.
But I don't know what wood was used or if it was finished with nitrocellulose lacquer or polyurethane.

Recently had a set-up done on my MiM Jazz and it still sounds great and feels wonderful to play.
About the only thing I've considered replacing on my bass are the pickups.


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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:00 pm
What is this fascination with E-bay and buying on the internet? And you guys wonder why so many small dealer are going or out of business and you get stuck with the GC's so many on here seem to despise so much. Go find a bass locally. See how it feels before you buy it. That's one reason you pay a little more locally. Sorry, JMO.


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While generally true, not everyone has the luxury of being able to just pop down to the local music store and try stuff out. In my case, I have to rely on the Internet and order my stuff online. I'm on disability, don't have a car, have to rely on public transport to get to the ONE store near me that I could try out stuff and no guarantee they would even stock the particular instrument I want.
I do have to be careful, though, I never buy used, and I only buy from well-known online dealers (Musician's Friend, Sweetwater.com) with good reps, or dealers I have dealt with satisfactorily before, never a private party. Then I research the hell out of the particular instument I'm intersted in, and then trust to a bit of luck that I get shipped a good one. So, far, so good. In the last year or so, I've gotten a MIM Strat, a MIA Jazz, and a Squier Jazz, all of which I've been very happy with, all bought "sight unseen". I've been lucky. Would I prefer to go try the stuff out before I buy it/? yes. Am I able to? No. I have to buy online.

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Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:12 pm
Agreed, you are in rough situation. You are doing what you have to do and not crying about it. My point is to the folks that are able to get around easier. I know what you're saying also about local stock. I try and get as close as I can finding it locally, make my decision, then order through my local guy. I try to give him the nod when ordering.


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MIM fenders are not junk at all. they are really good quality. The necks on the MIMs are made in the USA. I dont know about the bodies though. the MIMs are good quality and a reasonable price.


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rdguitar589 wrote:
MIM fenders are not junk at all. they are really good quality. The necks on the MIMs are made in the USA. I dont know about the bodies though. the MIMs are good quality and a reasonable price.


agreed... standard mexicans can sound really good with a good set up, strings ... etc... I've gigged with it with no worries..

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