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Should the Fender American Deluxe Jazz have a J/MM option?
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Post subject: j/mm please
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:08 pm
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If the Fender American Precision Deluxe can have a jazz pickup (Jacision? Prejazz? whatever), why can't the American Deluxe Jazz have a humbucker in the bridge position? Fender has at least two humbuckers of its own design it could drop in there, and certainly the players have been asking for it long enough.

The german company Sandberg already does this and their basses are great.


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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:28 pm
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On a related note, I would like to see a Fender Jazz Bass with Precision body option.

Since buying my MIJ 85 Jazz Bass Special, I have P bodies on my J-J and P-J basses.

Matching headstock colors should be an option as well...


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Post subject: Re: j/mm please
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:05 am
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fretless5 wrote:
If the Fender American Precision Deluxe can have a jazz pickup (Jacision? Prejazz? whatever), why can't the American Deluxe Jazz have a humbucker in the bridge position? Fender has at least two humbuckers of its own design it could drop in there, and certainly the players have been asking for it long enough.

The german company Sandberg already does this and their basses are great.


Sandberg is not alone!

Lakland and LAG (a French guitar and bass manufacturing facility founded by Michel Lag-Chavarria in 1980) make similar basses.

Below you'll find two samples of these basses (a Lakland 44-94 and a LAG Presence Standard), which are not mine. Although both basses had their own character, I prefer the Presence to the 44-94.

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I've found a nice documentation about Michel Chavarria and LAG Guitars, click on the Wiki link below:

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chavarria

You might also find a similar article about LAG Guitars on Zachary R. Fjestad's Blue Book of Electric Guitars.


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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:29 am
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acebase62 wrote:
On a related note, I would like to see a Fender Jazz Bass with Precision body option.

Since buying my MIJ 85 Jazz Bass Special, I have P bodies on my J-J and P-J basses.

Matching headstock colors should be an option as well...


Get a Deluxe Active Precision Bass Special or the much affordable Squier Standard version of this bass. Both basses had a P-Bass body with a J-Bass neck.

And if you're lucky enough, you can find the now-discontinued Aerodyne Classic P-Bass Special on eBay!


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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:55 am
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chromeface wrote:
acebase62 wrote:
On a related note, I would like to see a Fender Jazz Bass with Precision body option.

Since buying my MIJ 85 Jazz Bass Special, I have P bodies on my J-J and P-J basses.

Matching headstock colors should be an option as well...


Get a Deluxe Active Precision Bass Special or the much affordable Squier Standard version of this bass. Both basses had a P-Bass body with a J-Bass neck.

And if you're lucky enough, you can find the now-discontinued Aerodyne Classic P-Bass Special on eBay!


I should have indicated an American Jazz bass with a Precision body & 2 Jazz pickups.

G&L offers that in the the JB-2 bass, Fender could offer the same mix of tradition and unique.

chromeface, thanks for the advice; if I needed another mid or entry level bass I would consider something like you mentioned.


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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:30 pm
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If offering a bass with bridge humbucker, why not go all the way and make the neck pickup a humbucker as well.

Fender used to have the Zone bass, an instrument I never got the chance to check out. It looked great and was distinct from P or J basses.

Music Man and G&L do well with the double humbucker option.


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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:19 am
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I would think if it has a Precision bass body , then technically speaking it's no longer a Jazz bass, as it's my understanding it's the body that determines the model.


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Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:37 am
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Regarding hybrid type Fender basses, the naming convention hasn't always been consistent.

The mid 80s Jazz Bass Special had a P body and neck p/up, a J neck and bridge p/up. I did see an early brochure or ad that called it a P-J bass (maybe before they finalized the name?)

Some early 70s Precision basses had a slim nut width like a Jazz bass.

The Hot Rod P-bass had P body, neck, and p/up with a J p/up in bridge position.

Some Jazz basses have a P pickup in neck position. I consider the Mark Hoppus model as a P bass with a J body despite the official name. No J p/ups = no J bass in my mind, but others may think different, all is well.

The new American Deluxe P bass is like the Hot Rod, but with pre-amp.

Other Fender hybrid or unique designs: Roscoe Beck, Stu Hamm Urge, Zone, Jaguar, Mark Hoppus, etc...

My custom Jazz has a J neck and J p/ups with a P body. I don't think of it as a P bass at all.

IMO, Fender should continue to consider hybrid basses that utilize traditional P and J elements that have been successful in the past. Maybe offer humbuckers on some models (like the Zone). To me the name of the instrument is not as important as the features.

A question arose elsewhere in this forum regarding alternate Fender bass designs:

http://www.fender.com/community/forums/ ... hp?t=32964


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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:44 am
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The new American Deluxe P is an active/passive hybrid with 21 frets and an 18V supply. The older P had a humbucking side-by-side Jazz Bass pickup in the bridge.

The Deluxe Active P looks pretty much to the Hot-Rod American, except it's active and uses a single 9V battery.

Reggie Hamilton's signature Jazz Basses were also active/passive hybrids with the same P/J setup as the new American Deluxe Precision Basses, except for the Jazz Bass body and neck.

Hope this information helps.


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