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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 4:56 pm
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fjbass wrote:
I've had several basses since 1969. My Am. Std. J Bass is the best for me. Precessions are great, but the neck is just a little too much of a stretch for short fingers. The wood of the body on my J is awesome. It followed me home from the music store. I wonder sometimes what great wood grains are covered by the color finishes. Go 3 color sunburst.


I think one of the reasons I love burst colors so much is because it reveals a majority of the wood grain. The back of my Precision Bass is so beautiful! The wood grain really shows through, if it werent for the pick gaurd, you'd definately see more of it on the front. The same goes for my "J". I do love the narrower neck, of the "J" as well. Definately makes a difference when you're getting a hold of those lower notes. I do like my P. Bass neck, it's just not a neck for fast action, I suppose. It's great, for what I use it for, though. I play a alot of "grlowly" dessert rock stuff on it. Kinda like Queens of The Stone Age stuff. It's a great motown bass too. After seeing what my two basses offer, color-wise, I think 3-tone color bursts are the finnishes I'll only get! I would be interested in getting an american vintage '75 Jazz Bass. No paint, just natural wood, covered in clearcoat lacqure, with a maple neck, with black block inlays. You can see all the detail in the wood grain, on that beauty! Maybe in a few years, if Fender still offers it. You must've had some amazing basses, over the years!


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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:37 pm
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fjbass wrote:
I had a Gibson EBO that had what I thought was the best grain going, until I got my current J Bass. The back grain is super. Can't see where they joined the boards together. The front grain is incredible. It has a burl grain running on the majority of the lower left bottom, making it in plain view. If this was by accident when joining the Alder boards, way to go Fender.



What's your opinion on the EBO? I would like to own a Gibson Bass, in the near future. Either an SG-style EBO or a Thunderbird. I hear the quality has gotten rough on them, but I've never played one to be able to form my own opinion. My Precision Bass has a nice big burl grain running down the center of the back. It's really cool to look at and gives it an interesting flame look.


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fjbass wrote:
Hey Holland; Cool about the burl grain on your bass. You know where i'm coming from about that grain. I honestly don't know about the current Gibson SG Basses. I have heard the SG style Epiphone Basses can be rough. Two of the best players from 1967 forward, used Gibson EB3L. Jack Bruce and Felix Pappalardi. (Cream and Mountain) The Gibson SG sounds better with a high power amp. It clears out the muddy sound. They were used a lot by three and four piece bands, to act as a fill in sound. The earlier Gibsons used Humbucking pickups, that acted as a preamp into the amp. I really don't think I would go back to SG style basses. The Fender J Bass has me doing well.


Hey, fjbass, yeah, I'm a sucker for nice grain, on a bass! That's why I only opt for transparent burst finnishes! Now an Epiphone bass, I have tried. My friend is a drummer in a band, who's bassist had it and left it with his drums for the night. I tried it and was kinda horrified. It felt cheap and didn't sound right. The tuners also felt as if there were grains of sand between the teeth. Since they are kind of a punk band, they play their instruments pretty hard, so I just passed it off. Then I started to hear some things about Gibson SG basses with some of those similar traits. I'd really like to try one to see if it's some thing I'd be pleased with. I remember hearing some earlier Gibson EBOs that had the "Mudbucker" pickup and really dug the sound. You're right, though, they do sound way better through a high-power amp. I'm currently checking out a couople amps that are between 600-900 watt range, both are hybrid amps, with one 12-AX7 tube and a solid-state power section. My 30-watt combo was nice, but it only allows so much headroom, and doesn't take much for the single 10-inch speaker to distort. I wouldn't mind an all tube amp, it's just hard to find a real good one that's at a decent price. Since I have two real good basses, now, I'm right where you're at. Both basses treat me well and I get a lot of good sounds. Just some thing about those Gibson "Mudbucker" pickups, I like. Thanks, Jack Bruce, lol!


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oxfan wrote:
Exactly what Fretless said, great advice.


Second that.

I know Mr. Lee has talked about his sound, but just emulating his gear will not get it without the above mentioned technique.

Granted, his bass does have a bit of dirt involved with the sound. But it has evolved over time.

There is a big difference from the sound on "Moving Pictures" and now. Quite a bit has to to with the studio foundation (tough to duplicate live) along with his technique.


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contrabassist wrote:
oxfan wrote:
Exactly what Fretless said, great advice.


Second that.

I know Mr. Lee has talked about his sound, but just emulating his gear will not get it without the above mentioned technique.

Granted, his bass does have a bit of dirt involved with the sound. But it has evolved over time.

There is a big difference from the sound on "Moving Pictures" and now. Quite a bit has to to with the studio foundation (tough to duplicate live) along with his technique.


Hi, contrabassist, there is definately good advice, to be had in what Fretless said. Advice I'll definately consider, while on my quest. You are right about how just emulating the gear will not achieve the saught-after sound, without proper technique. Technique, I will need to work hard on. Even if I manage to emulate the gear, without the technique, I'm going nowhere. Definately, there are differences throughout many of the Rush albums, so saying I want to achieve a Geddy sound could loosely translate to a number of differrent sounds. To narrow it down, I'd go with the modern, snappy attacking sound, Geddy achieves in more recent albums. However his use of the Rickenbacker is some thing I love, as well. Thanks!


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fjbass wrote:
For $1,400. bucks, that Gibson SG better be perfect. You may not like the 30" scale neck as compared to the 34" neck of the Fender. To be honest, if I had larger fingers to stretch on a fretboard, other than a P Bass, the Rickenbacker would be my choice. Since you have an Am. Std. P Bass, and can play it well, you're covered. G&L brand basses can have wiring problems. Hagstrom Basses weigh a lot. The Fender Basses still seem to be the better overall choice. They work.



I agree, for $1,400 it better be perfect. After playing on basses with 34' scale, I'm not sure how playing on a short-scale bass would be beneficial. I would like to get a Rickenbacker, particularly in Fireglo or Mapleglo finnish, either the regular 4003 or a 4001C64 "Paul McCartney" bass. I'm not too knowledgeable on G&L basses, however I've heard that electrical issues have plagued some models. I I've been thinking that if the time came, where I wanted an bass with active electronics, I'd check out an Ernie Ball Music Man Stingray, with just the single humbucker. I think the Rickenbacker would be my first choice, though, if I were to get another bass. Right now, my Fenders are awesome, I don't think I'll be parting with them, ever!


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