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Post subject: Amps for a Jazz
Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:46 am
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Hey guys, can anyone suggest a good amp for a small gig? I have no idea in terms of amps but I have played with Fender Amps, Hartke, Peavey, ...etc but I didn't know what models I've used..

Usually I've been gigging without bringing an amplifier since most of the venues we played have their own, or rents for us but lately I've been thinking of getting my own just in case..

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:54 am
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Whats your price range?

warwicks are great i highly recommend them

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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:01 am
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Warwicks hmmm i'll try to check.. I have no idea about price range.. well as long as its worth it..
and i have no idea how many watts I'll need too.. :cry:


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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 7:26 pm
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You're gonna get a ton of different answers, most of which sound very different and offer very different tones. What kind of tone are you looking for? What music do you play, what features do you want, what other amps have you liked, etc.

Then there's the warm - hi-fi scale, which is a tricky one.


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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:37 pm
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for choice I'm not sure yet since i both play in an open area or sometimes in small cafes so i guess open stages need a bit more power than closed ones...

the tone im after is well more like the get that warm midrangey tone.. not hi fi..


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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:32 pm
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Depending on the size of the venue, if you don't need a lot of volume, I used to love the way my Hartke Kickback sounded with my Jazz bass but it's 150 watts so if your guitarist is playing thru anything more powerful than 35 watts, or if your drummer is a pounder, you will have trouble keeping up. Ampeg makes a great combo BA115 for under $400 that gets you 100 watts if you're looking for a vintage sound. More watts cost more money, anything over 250 watts you're going to be spending over $500-$600 all the way up into the $1,000's Mesa Boogie makes a Walkabout Scout that's only 30 pounds but pushes out 300 watts and has tremendous low end but it's $1400. Check out Hartke, Ampeg or SWR. Carvin also makes a good combo. Also check out Guitar Center on line, look at the used stuff. You can get a great bargain and most places will ship it to you for a reasonable price. I've gotten some great deals on used gear from them at great prices and it's always in great condition. They won't buy it if it's not like new. Hope I helped you a little. Good luck, you have the most important part IMO which is a great bass. Now you begin the quest to find the right amp that will do your bass justice.


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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:05 pm
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With a Jazz you want a horn. They sound better with one. The previously mentioned Ampeg BA115 has one, but so do lots of others. Actually the only opinion that matters is yours.

The best thing to do is to take your Jazz to a store that carries a wide variety of amps and try a bunch. You have a good point that some amps sound better with Jazzes and some sound better with Precisions. Also others do the active thing better than others.

I don't know what kind of music you play, but outdoors the 100 watt BA115 is not really enough for me. Bluegrass or folk or jazz maybe. It does have a direct out to the PA though. HOWEVER, if you direct out to PA it should be a beefy PA with SUBWOOFERS, not just mains and monitors. Indoors the BA115 will keep up pretty good for a little combo and does have decent one. But if I cranked the treble on the amp up too high on the one I had it would hiss too much. So I cranked the treble then reduced it to the point where the hiss was eliminated. I've heard of people actually disconnecting the horns in them to get around this issue, which I would not suggest at all.

Some show bands around here just use a Bass Pod or a Sans Amp direct to the PA with a dedicated monitor feed for the bassist. Handy since you only have to move the direct box instead of a huge stack but you can't hear it or control it as well. If I can't hear what I'm doing very well I don't play very well.


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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:10 pm
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Sansamps are great- I run a dry signal to my amp on stage and the wet sansamp into the PA. Amazing punch and crunch together.


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pmano wrote:
Sansamps are great- I run a dry signal to my amp on stage and the wet sansamp into the PA. Amazing punch and crunch together.


How do you split that into wet and dry?


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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 3:20 am
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i had a behringer bdi21 as well...
but as brotherdave stated it doesn't feel good if there's no amp behind you.. :lol:

the bad thing is there ain't not much of amp choices here... we'll theres peavey max, ibanez, line 6 and fender amps...

i'm interested in gallien kreuger amps but i haven't tried them yet coz we have to order it... (sigh)

for playing, well we play acoustic sets, funk and dance gigs, acid jazz and some rock... not that punk/metal loud rock... and some chili pepper covers as well..


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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:25 am
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brotherdave wrote:
pmano wrote:
Sansamps are great- I run a dry signal to my amp on stage and the wet sansamp into the PA. Amazing punch and crunch together.


How do you split that into wet and dry?


I have the rack mountable version of the Tech 21 SansAmp NYC RBI (tube amp emulator) not the stomp box. The back of the rackmounted sansamp has 2 outputs; a "sansamp" that I run direct and an "unaffected" that I pre amp to my bass rig. You get a great tube crunch (I set it to what the manual calls an "SVT" setting) and you still get a clear bottom at the same time. A little like Chris Squire's sound on the early Yes albums.


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figures...


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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 12:30 pm
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A good, cheap way to get an idea of which amp to play is to go see live bands in venues similar to ones you expect to play in yourself. If you like the way someone sounds on stage, ask them about the equipment they have, how they like it and whether it has given them any technical trouble. Think about it this way: you can ask for opinions and read up on the technical aspects of a piece of equipment all day long, but what really matters in the end is how the equipment sounds out in the room, not to you while you're onstage. These two sounds can be very different, and will change, especially in a club setting, by the number of people in the crowd and even the furniture in the room.

Also, if you play string bass and electric bass through the same amp, you are already talking about a compromise that you should be aware of. String bass is typically a very warm sound, even thuddy depending on how you mike it, whereas the sound of an electric bass can be anything you dial in.

When you're shopping in a store for the amp, bring your own bass and set it and the amp "flat" so that you are aware of the starting sound of the equipment. If you can't get a "flat" sound out of the amp that you like, you probably should move on to one where you can.


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MarkBass amps are nice for a JB...


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