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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:05 pm
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A 2X15, or an 8X10 would move more air that's for sure. But the room air volume can only handle so much, and anything over that is discernible.

it did sound good through the Eminence 15 in the Rumble 200. Like I said though, that was with the Epi factory standard rounds.

If it is Granadillo that one has on it, looked like the Pau Ferro orange tint some Fenders have on their fretboards. I like the Rosewood on my EB-0 better. Image

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 11:05 am
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That's a good point with the cab. I remember when I was trying to use the 18" speaker in a small room, and it was hard to contain it in there, especially because you had to put some power into it for it to really sound good, and if I did, it was too much low end for my girlfriend who was singing on the other side of the room in front of it. I'll bet that would have been a sweet cab in a large or open space, especially with another cab, like 10"s or 12"s on top for your mids and highs.

That's cool to know that the EB-0 sounded good with a 15" speaker, as well. I figured it probably would, since it did with a 12" and a 4 x 10" configuration. I imagine it would have had a nice thump to it, if it did have the nylons, or a set of flats on it.

You know, they exempted any restrictions for using rosewood for music instruments now, so maybe they might totally switch back to using that for fretboards again. It doesn't bother me, either way. My Ibanez has a Jatoba wood fretboard (whatever kind of wood that is) on it, and it sounds good and has a nice feel to it. So far, it also hasn't shrunk, like I've had that issue with a couple of rosewood boards in the winter, so I don't have to do any fret filing. Then again, I've had an old Ibanez CT series bass, and a Fender Precision Bass Lyte bass with rosewood, and never had to do that, so maybe that could also have to do how well the fretwork was done in the first place. Those basses weren't budget models, and made in the 90's, so maybe a little more effort was used. That, or just luck. :roll:

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:45 pm
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The one thing that forbids me from going to the Rumble 200 combo, they're just pricy. I'd consider the Hartke HD150 if I ever was to go with a 15".

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:16 pm
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Yeah, they cost only $100 less than the Rumble 500, and you need another cab to get the full 200 watts, which would make more sense to go for the Rumble 500, at least from the power aspect of it. Then again, you wouldn't have the 15" speaker, but I suppose you could eventually get one to add to the Rumble 500. That's what I'd do, anyway.

I remember you had a Hartke HD150 previously. That's pretty much the same amp you have now, with the exception of the 15" and twice the wattage, isn't it?

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:36 pm
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Yeah, that's about it on the HD150 compared to the HD75. That runs about $100. more than the HD75. I don't have the volume up much on the HD75, and it fills this room with sound. The HyDrive 12 does fine with the 7 band EQ, and the Humbucking. I almost think that the HyDrive 15, and the greater power, wouldn't do too much better in this room, and costing $100. more. I don't know. Image

I'm not in any position to even consider the HD150, let alone the Rumble 200, with out an extension cab. I'm ok at 75 watts with the power from the EQ, and the power from the Humbucking. I know there are some fine other pups around, but I respect the hell out of the big neck Humbuckings.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:57 pm
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Didn't you also have one of those Kickback combos at one time, as well? There's the KB12, and KB15, with 12" and 15" speakers, and I think they're 250 watts. I think if I were to get a Hartke, it would probably be one of those LH1000 or LH500 heads. I was watching an old demo video with those, and I thought they sounded pretty good.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:47 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
Didn't you also have one of those Kickback combos at one time, as well? There's the KB12, and KB15, with 12" and 15" speakers, and I think they're 250 watts. I think if I were to get a Hartke, it would probably be one of those LH1000 or LH500 heads. I was watching an old demo video with those, and I thought they sounded pretty good.


If I remember right, it was the KB12. I don't remember the wattage on it though.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:55 am
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Those are 250 watts RMS, according to their specs. Although, then they say they're 500 watts, but I think that's music or peak power. Still, pretty powerful for a combo amp, I think. I know they'd disagree over at the other site, because it's not 2000 watts, and going through some artisanal cab that they can play their bass diarrhea through. :P

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:17 pm
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They do seem to get a bit over zealous about the power outputs, and ratings of the amps over there, that's for sure.

I've given up offering advice to others over there as well, even if I've been directly involved in something that was precisely what they were seeking. It isn't worth the aggravation of putting up with some moron chiming in some useless garbage about something. Some guy was supposedly some expert in GFR, telling me that they never used anything but West Amps. When I told them they were using Hiwatt Amps in an early 1969, on the "On Time" concert tour for the show I saw, he got very indignant, and basically said I must have been on LSD, or some other mind altering drug at the time.

That basically told me to just keep my knowledge to myself, and what I know is mine to know. I had more road experience than most. and that's the name of that tune. There was a time back then when I was sought out for my live concert setups with amps. So I knew a little bit about them. I don't name drop who they were, I just don't think that's right. Some of the things I read in some publications about bands in concert, are right out of comic books.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:22 pm
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And now you know why I don't use that site, other than occasionally find something that might be mentioned about a particular amp or bass I might be looking up, and it's in the search results. If I could, I would have deleted my account there, but I don't think you can, unfortunately. I mean it's not all bad, but there are a lot of morons like that, in which you've dealt with. A lot of these people like to talk out their arse, and that's about all they do, anyway. :roll:

Of course you're going to know what was used or going on, since you were there, and often on a professional level. That was your job. As for things written in books, or elsewhere, I wouldn't believe everything you might read, because it isn't always accurate, especially if it's not coming directly from the original source.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:24 pm
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Yeah,......... I was there for real. I still carry a couple of scars from doing stage rescues live as the show played on. I still have a scar on my chin that has diminished its size in time, from the head of a Gibson SG Custom, as I attempted to get to the instrument cord to replug it back into the jack on it. The first attempt, the SG head smacked me in the chin knocking me flat on my back. The second attempt, I got the cord in hand, and replugged it in. I kinda' do an inner laugh, any time I hear that song being played today.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:50 pm
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What exactly happened with the guitar in the first place for you to even have to rescue it? They were being rambunctious on stage or something, and it was in the way?

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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:58 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
What exactly happened with the guitar in the first place for you to even have to rescue it? They were being rambunctious on stage or something, and it was in the way?


The SG was being played by a lead player, and as he moved on stage the cord got caught on something, and pulled it out of the jack. The cord wasn't tied off to hold it in place on the guitar, so it fell to the stage floor. He noticed he wasn't getting any sound, spun around, and lifted the neck at the same time I was trying to get the cord. The SG's head hit me hardest under the bottom edge of my chin. I didn't have a chance at the time to see what that damn cord snagged on. I just made sure from then on, instrument cords were secured to the strap.

I normally wasn't in a position back stage with this band to be able to attempt retrieving the cord. I just happen to be the closest to do it.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:16 pm
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Ouch, that had to suck! Well, that would also explain to anyone why you'd see anyone, especially back then feed their cables through the strap in the back of their instruments. I've never done it, myself, but I guess the reason for that was I was afraid it would help knock my strap off of the bass, and it's not like I moved around much in the first place. I suppose if I had strap locks, that wouldn't be an issue, though. By the way, did that cause the show to stop, or did everyone just keep playing?

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:24 am
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That show was in Philadelphia, at the Spectrum, August of 1971. No, that show didn't stop for that. That was a full house, or so I was told. I heard about 1,500, was the capacity for the Spectrum. MSG was just bit above the Spectrum by about 2,000 to 3,000.

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