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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-3
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:58 pm
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That's interesting that you mentioned that with having basses and guitars that match up. I've always liked that concept, as well. Although, sometimes that's difficult to do with certain models not having the same available finishes, or maybe even shapes. What guitar would match up with a Thunderbird bass, other than the Firebird guitar, which might not be available, since it seems to be less common than the Thunderbird bass, at least for the Epiphone models. Oddly enough, I did match up with the Squier Jazz, Precision (when I had it,) and Telecaster models by them being all sunburst. The funny thing about that was I only got those like that because that's what AMS had available at the times when I got them, not that I really sought out to get them in sunburst. I do like the sunburst finish, but I'd get something else, first, if I could.

That's interesting it was made in Indonesia, since most of their stuff is done at the China factory these days. Although, I think the Thunderbird models are made in Indonesia, as well. I remember talking about that a while back, the last time you had an Epiphone. I agree about Epiphone being something to look into, especially since they do seem to be well made, and have a lot of options. Certainly a lot cheaper than Gibson, and dealing with that QC issue. Although, they do have new blood in there, so maybe that will change.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 9:17 pm
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It isn't really the design, or body matching, as it is with the electronics matching. From what Felix said, Gibson setup the EB-1, and EB-0 with the same strings, set the height to his specs, and matched up both basses with pups, and pots to work in conjunction as to the differences in hollow body, and solid body to have the identical tone qualities, and volumes. That way, if a problem occurred, the change of one bass to the other would be immediate with no adjustments needed.

I would go totally flippen' bananas if Epiphone ever made their version of the Gibson EB-1. I don't honestly know if I'd try to acquire one if the price was in an affordable price range. The EB-3 is my God send back to an EB Gibson styled bass.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-3
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 12:39 pm
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That's actually a good idea to have those things matching, especially in those gig type situations. You know, they actually did make an EB-1, I think back in maybe the late 90's, or so. That would be seriously cool if they'd bring it back again. I've always had GAS for one of those, especially an original Gibson from the 50's, but I'd have to win the lottery for that one, if you can even find one anymore. Still, an Epiphone model would be the next best thing. I don't know what it is about that bass, but there's something that always appealed to me about it. It's not even a hollow or semi hollow body design, just made to look like one.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:38 pm
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It has that real early Gibson Bass look, when a Gibson Bass was a top bass to play, and own. I still like the SG / EB look. To me, it just screams 60's Rock that I still as love, and like Alice Cooper's album said, "Love It To Death"!

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-3
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:01 pm
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It does have that. Good for playing what my Dad would have called "narcotic music." :P Like I've mentioned before, I've never played the EB-3, but have the EB-0, and I wish I got one back then.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:36 pm
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It does have that. Good for playing what my Dad would have called "narcotic music." :P Like I've mentioned before, I've never played the EB-3, but have the EB-0, and I wish I got one back then.


Ron used the EB-0 I sold him for everything. He changed out three amps, but kept the EB-0. That EB-0 is recorded on their album back in 1971. I played my old EB-0 at the MSG sound check too.
There does seem to be a finer overall sound from the EB-3, over the EB-0. I'm not sure whether it's from the two Humbuckings, or the long scale. I might go with the two Humbuckings.
I do like the Epi EB-3, and I know I'm repetitive about the SG body shape. But I haven't ever seen, or had a bass body style I love as much as SG/EB.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-3
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:37 pm
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That's pretty cool that your old bass has had that kind of history to it. Does he still have it, do you know?

That's the thing with two pickups do give you an extra tonal option there. The funny thing is I've been just running the Precision pickup on my Ibanez and muting the Jazz one. I've even recorded with that like that fairly recently. I guess I've been trying to get more of a Precision sound with my bass, since I don't have one to use for that. It actually does it pretty well. I'll probably eventually just wind up running both of them, if I want to get that extra Jazz tone added to it.

It is a cool shape. I've never owned any instrument like that, but have played on them a few times in shops. I've never played on an SG type guitar, though.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:41 pm
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No, he sold it and his gear when he stopped playing.
When ever I had a PJ, I used the Precision pup mainly.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-3
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:51 pm
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That's too bad he stopped playing. I can't ever imagine doing that. I wonder what ever became of it?

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:39 am
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PaulLF wrote:
That's too bad he stopped playing. I can't ever imagine doing that. I wonder what ever became of it?


I don't know. I haven't been in contact with him for a long time. He got out of playing when he got drafted in the last round of the draft. That was the last draft after the one that inducted me. He was in the last round ever inducted in the U.S. His EB-0, and Acoustic 360 / 361 went somewhere.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-3
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:23 pm
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Wow, that had to have sucked. You two didn't serve together, I take it?

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:43 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
Wow, that had to have sucked. You two didn't serve together, I take it?


No, as I got home he was going to be shipping out in a short time. His lottery number was higher than my #15 was.

I got in a bit of playing today, and I took the time to really Road Rex eye ball the EB-3. What a beautiful, well made bass. The side of the fretboard where the location dots are, is so beautiful. I'm serious about this, that I've had Gibson SG Std.'s, Fender Am. Std.'s, and even Ric 4003's that weren't finished as well, on the dressing of the frets, and the finish over top of these of the fretboard. Not even taking into the Rosewood fretboard itself. It's one smooth as crystal playing neck. The edges of the board almost feel slightly, a bit rolled.

One thing that I didn't mention that is extremely friendly to my playing preference on the EB-3, the board's radius is a bit flatter at 12". I do like, and play better with a flatter radius board. I did great for a non Gibson SG with a long scale Ebony finish for $399. Ok, the case was $99. The Nylons fit from the Player Jazz. It's a fine combination with the HD75 too. Mountain & Cream sounds almost bring tears to my eyes. It really is that great! I'm a real softy for Mountain & Cream.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-3
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:47 pm
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That bass sounds like it's well made, then. I know how many basses you've gone through, especially with the higher end stuff like Rics and USA Fenders, so I know you know your stuff, and the fact you also worked on the road for some famous bands, who also had the gear, so being around that, you can tell when something is good or not.

Of course, not every single one is going to be the same, especially at that level, so there are bound to be lemons here and there, but I have noticed they are on to something in general. Wouldn't you say with the majority of the Epiphone stuff you've had was pretty spot on, other than the neck issue with the one Viola model? Of course, that type of bass can be more prone to potential problems like that, because of it's design. As much as I like my violin bass, especially going into the Fender, it's been a pain in the arse with the neck, especially dealing with the weather changes.

You should paint some sort of psychedelic design on it, to get it with the Mountain/Cream vibe. Did you ever do stuff like that to any of your gear, or put stickers on them? I used to do that years ago, especially with some of the more beater instruments I had.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-0
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 2:29 pm
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No, I never got into stickers, and whatever on Basses, or Guitars. it just wasn't, and still isn't me I guess. God knows I've seen enough of it on others over the years. I'm not an expert on a lot of things, but I did kinda' know my way around gear. I think I had the mind set about some of the "higher stuff", as you put it from my father. A lot of him rubbed off on me when it came to acquiring gear. He thought I was a pretty decent Roadie, then to Head Roadie. Maybe I should have followed his lead into the sound recording booths. I met a fair amount of folks along the way, but he knew them all. Oh Well,.........

Yes the EB-3 really is a damn wonderful bass. Better than the last two I had. It's definitely an Indonesian of Dec. 2018, if that means anything, or matters. It doesn't to me the way this one was created. Or maybe it does, I don't know. I just know I back home with an EB/SG style bass, long scale this time. I always knew I should have had a Gibson EB-3L back then. So now I have basically one in the Epi, with the Ebony finish and acrylic pearloid neck blocks. I do fancy those pearloid in the fretboard with the Rosewood.

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Post subject: Re: Epiphone EB-3
Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:05 pm
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Yeah, the thing about having stickers on an instrument is if you want to take them off, it's a real pain in the arse to clean up the residue left behind from them. It's definitely something I wouldn't recommend to an expensive instrument, especially if you want to retain most of it's resale value. In other words, I wouldn't put any on a Rickenbacker or an Alembic.

Speaking of stickers, we've had this 90's MIM Strat laying around the house that is in I think the Sonic Blue finish, with a rosewood board, and looks like the ones that John Lennon and George Harrison had when they did "Rubber Soul," and it's in pretty rough shape.

It was my girlfriend's sister's Strat, when she was a teen and tried to take up guitar, among 100 other things to do, and she had covered it with all kinds of stickers, from front to back. Years ago, I tried to take some of them off, and it left residue, but I haven't touched it since then, because at the time she did give the guitar to my girlfriend, but then she wanted to take it back to sell it for some reason, even though she's far from broke and needing money (she's actually a doctor, now) so I wasn't going to put any work into something just to have it taken back like that, when it was given to my girlfriend, and it's just been sitting around for years.

Well, last year or two, she finally decided to give it back to my girlfriend for good, but I just haven't thought about trying to fix it up. It also needs a setup and I think the electronics need some work, maybe a cleaning. I can deal with the sticker mess, but I don't know how to set up a Strat, or do electronics work. That will have to be done professionally.

The thing about recording is you would have been in it a lot longer than doing the road work, probably. It's certainly less physically demanding, but you wouldn't have traveled all over the place and did all of that. I guess it's one of those what if scenarios that life throws at you sometimes, if you turned left instead of right, and all of that. I guess it's all water under the bridge, now. That's the thing that sucks about the past, you can't relive, or change it, especially when you wish you've made other or better choices. :roll:

Wasn't that Gibson EB-3L the one that had a slotted headstock? I think I remember seeing that somewhere on the internet.

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