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Post subject: Re: Hofner '64 Violin Bass
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 8:09 am
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Post subject: Re: Hofner '64 Violin Bass
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 12:41 pm
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Interestingly enough, if your amp and 12"s were of the 60's Fender persuasion, you'd have Paul McCartney's rig, especially for the "Let It Be" album sessions. He even had nylons on his Hofner. He had a Bassman with a 2 x 12" cab, though.

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Post subject: Re: Hofner '64 Violin Bass
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:27 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
Interestingly enough, if your amp and 12"s were of the 60's Fender persuasion, you'd have Paul McCartney's rig, especially for the "Let It Be" album sessions. He even had nylons on his Hofner. He had a Bassman with a 2 x 12" cab, though.


Please,...... don't entice me. My wish of any amp to be made again, A Fender Bassman Amp with the 2X12 cab. There were a lot Bassman 2X12 cabs played through. I never realized Sir Paul used Nylons on his Hofner for the "Let It Be" album sessions. I do think the 2X112 Markbass setup does bring out the Hofner sound as I like it. The external cab does a fine job working in conjunction with the combo.

The bottom line, the basses, and amp play well together. That's all I've been striving for.

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Post subject: Re: Hofner '64 Violin Bass
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:26 am
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I think he did it on "Abbey Road" session, as well. Here's a pic with them. He used Rotosounds, from what I've read. Image

Well, they still make the heads in the new versions, but have yet to come out with the 2 x 12" cabs again. I suppose there's always old ones. I've always thought about those, but equipping them with modern, more bass friendly speakers, so you don't fry them from putting too much bass into them.

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Post subject: Re: Hofner '64 Violin Bass
Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:49 pm
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Sure enough, the Hofner with Nylons. It doesn't surprise me at all if he did use Nylons on some, or all of Abbey Road either. I've heard other Beatles songs, and albums that I thought he used Nylons on. I think that's what gave me the idea to use Nylons on the EKO.
One drawback I could think of with the older Bassman 2X12 cabs, they from what I remember, they had some serious weight to them. Like everything else back then.

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Post subject: Re: Hofner '64 Violin Bass
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:46 am
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I guess the one thing about them about being heavy, they were well built at least. So you've used nylons since you've started playing then?

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Post subject: Re: Hofner '64 Violin Bass
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:16 pm
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I guess the one thing about them about being heavy, they were well built at least. So you've used nylons since you've started playing then?


Pretty close. The first Nylons I used, I think we're Gibson strings. It's been a while though.

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Post subject: Re: Hofner '64 Violin Bass
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:16 pm
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The other day I played the Hofner unplugged. Very nice harmonics. I was pleasantly surprised how it sounded. I'll want to play it unplugged more. I remember we were discussing that about the Douglas, and the Epi. I don't recall at this time, if you said your Douglas played well unplugged.

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Post subject: Re: Hofner '64 Violin Bass
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:28 pm
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I guess the one thing about them about being heavy, they were well built at least. So you've used nylons since you've started playing then?


Pretty close. The first Nylons I used, I think we're Gibson strings. It's been a while though.


It would be interesting to know who actually came out with those first. Rotosound claimed to have in 1962, so I suppose that's possible. I know the ones Paul McCartney used were Rotosound, which does make sense, because that's a UK brand and a lot of them used them, and still do. I guess John Entwistle was the one to get them to come out with the round wound strings, which I think what they're most known for, those Swing Bass 66's. The Who even did a radio jingle for them on "The Who Sell Out."

Speaking of Rotosound, I still have those on three of my basses, and I'm actually just thinking about going back to them when I get new strings, especially if I decide to go with some rounds, or not. I do like the sound of them, it's just I have to make sure they're not too heavy of a gauge, and they aren't available in as many places as they used to be, for some reason. Also, I know I've been waffling around with the flats or rounds thing off and on, but I've been thinking about my overall sound and what I want to do with it. Of course, having more than one instrument, you can do different things, including different strings. I can take it in totally different directions.

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Post subject: Re: Hofner '64 Violin Bass
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:35 pm
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The other day I played the Hofner unplugged. Very nice harmonics. I was pleasantly surprised how it sounded. I'll want to play it unplugged more. I remember we were discussing that about the Douglas, and the Epi. I don't recall at this time, if you said your Douglas played well unplugged.


Yeah, that's one thing cool about that bass, if you're just sitting on a couch, watching TV, or whatever. Although, at least with my bass, it sounds the best through the Fender amp for some reason. Always did, but not as much through the other amps, unless I used the MXR pedal. I don't know why it's like that with just that one particular bass.

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Post subject: Re: Hofner '64 Violin Bass
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:52 pm
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I can believe your Violin sounds good through the Fender. I'd use a Fender myself if they made an amp a bit more to my liking. I'm glad I'm back with a violin Bass, and I can see how the Violin Bass has somewhat won you overs well.

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Post subject: Re: Hofner '64 Violin Bass
Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:15 pm
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Yeah, I never thought I'd ever wind up with one, but I've always wanted a hollow body, and the price was perfect. I actually do play on it a lot, even more so than the Ibanez. I suppose if Fender had the 2 x 12" cab, that might be a different story. :P

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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:46 pm
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Yeah, I never thought I'd ever wind up with one, but I've always wanted a hollow body, and the price was perfect. I actually do play on it a lot, even more so than the Ibanez. I suppose if Fender had the 2 x 12" cab, that might be a different story. :P


I'm heavy into the Violin shape body, and everything else that is part of it. My perfect idea of a hollow body design, the Violin bass. The Jack Cassidy bass shape is just a bit larger than I'm comfortable with. I sure don't mind the weight of a hollow body either.
I Fender did make a 2X12 cab again, that would be a tough choice to make between that, and the Markbass. especially now that I have the 1X12 along with the Combo. That little Combo really is a fine amp.

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Post subject: Re: Hofner '64 Violin Bass
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:53 am
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I have played on the Jack Casady bass, and even though it's semi hollow body, I remember it being on the heavy side, even as much or more than an old school P-Bass. Plays and sounds good, though.

Out of curiosity, if Fender came out with a 2 x 12" cab, what head would you even use for it, if you were interested in doing so?

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Post subject: Re: Hofner '64 Violin Bass
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:08 am
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PaulLF wrote:
I have played on the Jack Casady bass, and even though it's semi hollow body, I remember it being on the heavy side, even as much or more than an old school P-Bass. Plays and sounds good, though.

Out of curiosity, if Fender came out with a 2 x 12" cab, what head would you even use for it, if you were interested in doing so?


I guess it would somewhat depend on the configuration of the cab. I would assume it would be a staggered speaker design, being about the same size as a 4X10 cab. And knowing Fender, it would be an 8 ohm, so it could be stacked. Just off the top of my head right now, either one of the Bassman heads, or a Rumble 800HD. I really don't see Fender putting out the 2X12 cab though. It would be too fine of a cab, that players may like playing through.
But, I can't discount the Markbass heads either, for the sounds through 12" speakers. For me anymore, with the two basses I'm playing now, I wouldn't want to use either 10's, or 15's while I have 12's.

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