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Post subject: Re: Ric 4003 Jetglo
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:58 pm
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I listened to you Away In The Manager. Very nice Paul. I'm just not saying the either. It sounds calming, with beautiful tone. Thank you for letting me know you created that.

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Post subject: Re: Ric 4003 Jetglo
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:57 pm
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Thank you. 8) It was all my girlfriend's doing, other than the bass part. It was pretty fun to do it. I'm actually hoping we'll do some more of those in the future, although I'd prefer to do them in 4/4, instead of the 3/4 or waltz timing, like that was. It's kind of a pain in the arse to rewire my brain to think about that when I'm playing. :P Still, not as bad as 5/4, or 7/8. I'd probably be out of luck, though, since most of those songs are a few hundred years old, and the waltz thing was real big back then.

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Post subject: Re: Ric 4003 Jetglo
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:05 pm
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Wasn't 3/4 the basic 60's rock beat?

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Post subject: Re: Ric 4003 Jetglo
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 2:16 pm
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It's usually 4/4. Although, Pink Floyd's "Money" is in 7/4 and Led Zeppelin's "The Ocean" is in 7/8, mixed with 4/4.

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Post subject: Re: Ric 4003 Jetglo
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:43 pm
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That's interesting.

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Post subject: Re: Ric 4003 Jetglo
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:55 pm
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The Beatles did stuff like that, too. They'd throw in some odd time signatures here and there in some songs. Usually, the later stuff, though.

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Post subject: Re: Ric 4003 Jetglo
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:52 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
The Beatles did stuff like that, too. They'd throw in some odd time signatures here and there in some songs. Usually, the later stuff, though.


Yes The Beatles were very inventive with their compositions.

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Post subject: Re: Ric 4003 Jetglo
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 9:09 pm
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Speaking of The Beatles, (and kind of getting the thread back on original topic,) how's the Ric holding out for you?

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Post subject: Re: Ric 4003 Jetglo
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:42 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
Speaking of The Beatles, (and kind of getting the thread back on original topic,) how's the Ric holding out for you?


Paul, you must be a Psychic or something. I played both the Ric, and the GL today. I made a few amp adjustments. The Ric sounds really fine, but the GL sounds SUPER FINE. For me the the Ric sounds kinda' like a Precision with a neck I can play well. I'm glad I bit the bullet, and bought it when I did. And also hung on to it. The GL is my Jazz. Gotta' have a Jazz.

My older ears finally picked up on a few things that were bugging me for a bit. I needed to get away from playing, for a month or so. It helped me out.

The Hartke TX600 head is like most Hartke heads. It's better sounds, and volume power comes from it's mid frequencies, and the boosting ofnthem. I added bit more gain very slightly, raised up the frequency, and boosted the treble a lot more than what I had it set at. I had to cut back on the volume. This has really surprised me on how good the TX600 performs.

Oh yeah, those HyDrive 10's are sounding broken in, nice and easy. A good clean crisp bass tone.

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Post subject: Re: Ric 4003 Jetglo
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:40 am
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I know you really like the Jazz, since that seems to be the one you've always had in your collection, or at least will eventually go back to one, if you go with something else for awhile. I even still pick up the Squier Jazz from time to time, even though I've been about the short scales these days. It's neck is thin enough to where you can still play on it without it being awkward. I think if I go back with a long scale, it would probably be a Jazz, unless I could afford a Ric. Then again, I also like the Ibanez basses, too. Then again, who's to say you can only have one style of bass in the first place? That's when you get into GAS territory and get into trouble. :P :roll:

What was bugging you with your sound?

That's good that you seem to be happy with your Hartke amp setup. Sometimes, it can take forever to go through a bunch of gear to get to where you're happy, but then again, that can always be subject to change. :roll: Speaking of that, after some debate and soul searching, I'm going to try and sell the Orange head again. It would be a good time to do so, since I'm not playing any shows at the moment, and I do have the Fender backup option. If I do sell it, I'm thinking about getting either an Ampeg SVT 7 Pro, which AMS has one discounted cheap enough to where I can get one with the funds from the Orange, or the Ampeg PF800 Portaflex head, which I know I should be able to get with the funds. Unless something else comes around with the power and features of these two heads, with the same price point, then we'll see how that goes.

If Fender had made a head version of the Stage 800, then I'd definitely consider that, but they don't, and the combo is too expensive to where I can get it with what I could get for the Orange, so that's out of the picture. I think the Ampeg has the features I need, and I do like the way they sound, and I can get it from where I like to do business. Like I mentioned before, unless something else comes along, then I think that's the goal. You never know what can pop up, though. Bass gear as been coming out left and right so much lately that there's really a lot to choose from. There's a lot of companies out there, too.

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Post subject: Re: Ric 4003 Jetglo
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:53 pm
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The Ampeg SVT 7 PRO does well with a 4X10 cab. It's pretty much the preferred head to go along with the Ampeg SVT410HLF cab. I think it's a good move to drop the Orange from your line up. Or attempt to. You never know which way the winds are blowing on selling an amp.

The lower volume on the TX600 head was a bit low for 450 watts @ 8 ohms. That's when I recall having to boost the mid frequency on a former Hartke head I had a few years ago. That cured it. That Hartke head is loud, and has great tone quality to it. I really recommend this head. Image

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Post subject: Re: Ric 4003 Jetglo
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 3:18 pm
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Well, I'm going to try to sell it. Of course, no guarantees, since I didn't have much luck doing so in the past. If I can't, then I can't, and I'll just have to live with it until I do. It's not like it's the worst amp in the world, or anything like that, it's just not really for me, or the sound I want to go for. I suppose I can get by with it, which I have with the MXR bass preamp, because my violin bass is a sonically finicky pain in the arse (or maybe it's just me,) but if I can get something that offers me some extra features that I'd like, why not just get it, then? I just hope the Ampeg will work with it, which I'm pretty sure it will, since it does have additional EQ options, which unfortunately, the Orange doesn't have, and I'm confident that will be enough for the violin bass to behave, at least.

The problem I'm having deals with the midrange, and the Ampeg does offer several options with that frequency on their amps, so that should work. The Fender has a simple midrange sweep adjustment, and I get an excellent tone out of the violin bass with that amp, so I'm pretty confident that's the issue. The Orange has only a bass, midrange, and treble EQ section that seems to play hell with the violin bass for some reason. Maybe it has something to do with being an essentially an acoustic instrument, I have no idea. I did play other basses through the Orange briefly, when I first got it, and I don't remember any issues, but I was also using different cabs, and other factors involved. You know, I might not even have any issues with the Ibanez, when I do eventually play through it, but I want to go on to something else, if I can.

I just noticed that you don't have a midrange control on that head, or is those shape and frequency knobs have to do with that? That's interesting that they labeled it like that, if that's the case.

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Post subject: Re: Ric 4003 Jetglo
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:31 pm
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It's some of the Shape, but mainly the Frequency that works well with the gain as well. The TX600 is a great head, at least what I use it for. As I raised the shape I liked the sound better. But it was seriously the Frequency going a bit past upright. I thought it would add to much high ends. I even raised the treble up about three numbers, and that gave it a bit more clarity, without taking any of the bass low tones away. I truly believe this amp head is very misunderstood on it's settings to get low tones, and power volume sounds. I got it!!!
Now it really sounds, and feels like I'm getting 450 watts from the TX600. Once again, my respect for the HyDrive 10's that I do feel are broken in now. Great speakers.

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Post subject: Re: Ric 4003 Jetglo
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:09 pm
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I read a couple of reviews about that amp, and a couple people complained that they didn't think it had as much power as it should, but another person said you have to adjust the master and gain knobs differently than a lot of other amps for it to open up.

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Post subject: Re: Ric 4003 Jetglo
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:58 pm
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PaulLF wrote:
I read a couple of reviews about that amp, and a couple people complained that they didn't think it had as much power as it should, but another person said you have to adjust the master and gain knobs differently than a lot of other amps for it to open up.


Add the Frequency control to that list also. I read maybe the same reviews. Like I said I had a LH500 that acted the same way until i used the mid range as it has a profound affect on the power. Hartke's are based on the mid range settings. The Ric can be a real PITA to get a full low bass tone with prominence. Both the Ric, and the Jazz are booming with the resets on the Hartke. You know me, I almost never turn up the treble on a head. The treble blended great, and did well without diminishing any of the bass low tones. I didn't even pull the bass power boost on the head.

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