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Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:05 pm
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Hello my name is Juan from Argentina, i REALLY need to know the REAL diferencie between the AMERICAN standard jazz bass and the same bass but made in MEXICO, the wood? the neck?the microphones?the quality is very different?,i hope your help, THANKS ALL


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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:15 pm
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Well, the HUGE difference between the MIM and MIA basses, strats, teles, etc. is...nothing. I wish I had a more dramatic answer. Heck, i've even heard rumors that they even use the same employees from Corona in the Ensenada factory. BUT I can tell you that the woods from the MIM seem to be of a SLIGHT lower quality. Fender is too good too make a cheap instrument. Inexpensive maybe, but cheap? No.


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Well, the HUGE difference between the MIM and MIA basses, strats, teles, etc. is...nothing. I wish I had a more dramatic answer. Heck, i've even heard rumors that they even use the same employees from Corona in the Ensenada factory. BUT I can tell you that the woods from the MIM seem to be of a SLIGHT lower quality. Fender is too good too make a cheap instrument. Inexpensive maybe, but cheap? No.


I disagree. The MIM guitars and basses do not seem to have the same attention to detail as the MIA versions. I have been playing for 30 years and have seen many MIM basses where the fret wire extended past the fretboard, the nuts were plastic instead of bone, etc. The same is true with Gibson/Epiphone. I have seen many Epiphones that were not up to the same standard of Gibson. In another post a user stated that the nut on his MIM bass had broken. He went to a music store and found that the MIA bass had a bone nut. Personally, I would never buy a MIM guitar or bass unless it was for a beginner


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Post subject: Standard or American Standard...
Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 9:11 pm
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Particularly now, there is a big difference between the Fender Standard and the Fender American Standard Jazz Bass.

Check out this award winning (Bass Player Editors Award) article from Bass Player Magazine...

http://www.bassplayer.com/article/fende ... y-08/35503

The is you have time, check out Bass Player TV. You will need to scroll to the Basses & Gear...then Gear Preview...lastly the Fender American Stand. icon & then click. It is a carry-over from the written review...

http://www.bassplayer.tv/


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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 5:51 pm
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Please !!!! I've heard enough of this nonsense about the socalled better attention to detail of the MIA basses vs the ( socalled) MIM because of ( socalled ) better woods and this and that.....psssst. Well I've had a few of both and I can say that as far as ( socalled) better construction of the MIA basses..that wasn't really the case because both of them were damn'er the same and to be honest I thought the MIM basses had a fatter tone and a better feel than but I've enjoyed playing both of them, however with that being said, I doubt very seriously if a ( socalled ) exist.If anything the only thing that exist is a spray-booth in Mexico to were the MIA basses that have been assemble with (socalled ) cheaper hardware


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Posted: Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:55 pm
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I've owned quite a number of both MIA and MIM Fenders. And I give the MIM instrument just as high marks as their US made counterparts. The MIM Classic 60's Jazz bass was a wonderful bass and I hear great things about the new 70's Jazz which is also a MIM build. I also had a MIM P-Bass Special and a Deluxe Active Jazz....and both were flawless and built like tanks.

So I do not know where all this non-sense talk comes from stating MIM instruments are so inferior. Just not true.....


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Posted: Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:45 pm
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American Standard :

http://www.fender.com/products//view_sp ... s%26reg%3B

Standard (MIM)

http://www.fender.com/products//view_sp ... Upgrade%29

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There were and there are differences. The biggest difference for me, is labor cost. That's why it's cheaper for MIM. In the older days, quality simply were oceans apart, now, not so sure it's that large, but it's still there. Sound quality should be the same now tho, played through the same rig.

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There were and there are differences. The biggest difference for me, is labor cost. That's why it's cheaper for MIM. In the older days, quality simply were oceans apart, now, not so sure it's that large, but it's still there. Sound quality should be the same now tho, played through the same rig.


I have done some extensive research on this topic. What I have found is that the MIA basses have either Alder or Ash bodies, most of the MIM have Soft Maple bodies. The nut on MIA basses is usually bone, on the MIM, it's plastic, the bridges on MIA are of a higher quality even though they look the same as the ones on the MIM basses. The finish on the neck is slightly more contoured on the MIA basses therefore, easier to play. The MIA basses also have higher quality electronics. What this all adds up to is that you get what you pay for. The MIA basses are better and sound better. A beginner to moderate player might not hear the difference but inthe hands of an experience player, it's a huge difference. MIM basses are great to learn on. In fact, I bought on for my son. I would never buy one for myself. If you really don't think there is any difference, then explain why you never see a major recording artist playing an MIM bass?


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Rockbassist wrote:
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There were and there are differences. The biggest difference for me, is labor cost. That's why it's cheaper for MIM. In the older days, quality simply were oceans apart, now, not so sure it's that large, but it's still there. Sound quality should be the same now tho, played through the same rig.


I have done some extensive research on this topic. What I have found is that the MIA basses have either Alder or Ash bodies, most of the MIM have Soft Maple bodies. The nut on MIA basses is usually bone, on the MIM, it's plastic, the bridges on MIA are of a higher quality even though they look the same as the ones on the MIM basses. The finish on the neck is slightly more contoured on the MIA basses therefore, easier to play. The MIA basses also have higher quality electronics. What this all adds up to is that you get what you pay for. The MIA basses are better and sound better. A beginner to moderate player might not hear the difference but inthe hands of an experience player, it's a huge difference. MIM basses are great to learn on. In fact, I bought on for my son. I would never buy one for myself. If you really don't think there is any difference, then explain why you never see a major recording artist playing an MIM bass?


Utter rhubarb!!!!!!!

You are on the Fender website - look at the specs! MIM's are made from alder or ash just as MIA's!

People on forums talk such b****ks! (and prove themselves complete ignorant snobs)

Who the f**k are you to say that a MIM Fender is only suitable for a child.
extensive research indeed!!!!!

You sir, are an oxygen thief.

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Ian, take it easy man. You're correct about the utter bs about the MIM v. MIA. I stand by what I say, it's the labor cost is the big difference, some are the little things like a case for example.

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Yeah, such ignorance gets me all angry - not just the wild sweeping uninformed statements, mainly the elitist belief that music made on a MIM is less valid that music made on a MIA fender, MM's are only good for children nonsense.

If I could afford an MIA, I would by one. I have MIM's and Squiers.
I've gigged & recorded with a squier, it sounded great.

So, Juan Sebastian if you're in two minds as to what you should buy, go with what you can afford, and let your musicianship allow you to make great music.

Don't trust the incorrect information people give you on forums (extensive research, MIM's are made from soft maple - Jesus!?)

I've seen plenty of pro musicians play MIM's (I've seen Graham Coxon - oen of the finest guitarists ever gigging with a squier)

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I tried 7 or 8 MIA and an equal number of MIM when I was looking for a 5 string J bass late last year. If there were any quality and playability differences, they were slight. Yes, in my opinion, the MIA models had subtle differences (slightly more attention to finish detail, etc.) but nothing that's going to affect daily use.

Maybe I could have heard equally small sound differences in a listening room with an amp set just the way I wanted it. But in a guitar store, I could hear none. Since that probably more resembles a real venue than a listening room, I coudn't justify the MIA on sound.

I ended up with an MIM and while it's not my main bass, I've been happy with it. No need to even take it to my guitar tech for touch up or setup work so far.

This also addresses the fret issues -- the fret work was fine as is. A second story I hear sometimes is that they don't cure the wood as well for MIM models. True or not, I don't know but if that was the case with what I have, there'd be neck shrinkage and a need for fret work by now. Not the case, even though my condo tends to be very dry.


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Rockbassist wrote:
I have done some extensive research on this topic. What I have found is that the MIA basses have either Alder or Ash bodies, most of the MIM have Soft Maple bodies. The nut on MIA basses is usually bone, on the MIM, it's plastic, the bridges on MIA are of a higher quality even though they look the same as the ones on the MIM basses. The finish on the neck is slightly more contoured on the MIA basses therefore, easier to play. The MIA basses also have higher quality electronics. What this all adds up to is that you get what you pay for. The MIA basses are better and sound better. A beginner to moderate player might not hear the difference but inthe hands of an experience player, it's a huge difference. MIM basses are great to learn on. In fact, I bought on for my son. I would never buy one for myself. If you really don't think there is any difference, then explain why you never see a major recording artist playing an MIM bass?


Yep, obviously this person has not one clue of what he is talking....totally clueless! Probably does not even own a Fender! A SX is my guess!

BTY, where do they sell all those Maple bodied MIM's?? On eBay?

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