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 Post subject: difference between a squier and fender
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:39 pm 
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hey i'd like to know exactly the difference between the fender and squier

i own a squier and im thinking about upgrading it with a neck, pickups, bridge and tuners

below are the specs for first the fender standard american and the squier affinty

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Model Name  American Standard Stratocaster® 
Model Number  011-0400-(Color #) and 011-0402-(Color #) 
Series  American Standard Series 
Colors  (700) 3-Color Sunburst,
(705) Olympic White,
(706) Black,
(712) Candy Cola,
(747)** Sienna Sunburst, (Ash Body),**add $100.00 for Special Wood Requirements,
(755) Blizzard Pearl,
(769) Charcoal Frost Metallic,
(Urethane Finish) 
Body  Alder on:
(700) 3-Color Sunburst,
(705) Olympic White,
(706) Black,
(712) Candy Cola,
(755) Blizzard Pearl,
(769) Charcoal Frost Metallic,
Ash on:
(747)** Sienna Sunburst, **add $100.00 for Special Wood Requirements, 
Neck  Maple, Modern “C” Shape,
(Gloss Headstock Face with Satin Urethane Finish on Back of Neck) 
Fingerboard  Rosewood (p/n 011-0400) or Maple (p/n 011-0402), 9.5” Radius (241 mm) 
No. of Frets  22 Medium Jumbo Frets 
Pickups  3 American Strat® Single-Coil Pickups 
Controls  Master Volume,
Tone 1. (Neck Pickup),
Tone 2. Delta Tone™
(“Delta Tone” system includes high output bridge pickup and special No-Load tone control for Middle and Bridge Pickups) 
Pickup Switching  5-Position Blade:
Position 1. Bridge Pickup
Position 2. Bridge and Middle Pickup
Position 3. Middle Pickup
Position 4. Middle and Neck Pickup
Position 5. Neck Pickup 
Bridge  2-Point Synchronized Tremolo with New American Standard Bent Steel Saddles 
Machine Heads  Fender® Deluxe Staggered Cast/Sealed Tuning Machines 
Hardware  Chrome 
Pickguard  3-Ply Parchment 
Scale Length  25.5” (648 mm) 
Width at Nut  1.685” (42.8 mm) 
Unique Features  New Bent Steel Saddles with Elongated String Slots,
Copper Infused High Mass 100% Metal Bridge Block,
Thinner Undercoat Finish for Improved Body Resonance,
Tinted Neck,
Maple Fingerboard Neck: Satin Finish on Back, Gloss Finish on Front;
Rosewood Fingerboard Neck: Satin Finish on Back, Gloss Finish on Headstock Front with Buffed Fingerboard,
4-Bolt Neck Attachment with Micro-Tilt™ Adjustment,
Bi-Flex Truss Rod System,
Parchment Knobs and Pickup Covers,
Rolled Fretboard Edges,
Staggered Tuning Keys,
H/S/H Pickup Routing,
New Molded Fender/SKB Case with TSA Locks, Glass Reinforced Nylon Trigger Latches, and Form Fitted Plush Interior 
Strings  Fender® Standard Tension™ Bullet ST3250L, Nickel Plated Steel, (.009 to .042), p/n 073-3250-203 
Accessories  Fender/SKB® Case, Cable, Strap, Polishing Cloth 
Case  High-Tech, Molded Rectangular SKB® Case 
Introduced  1/2008 
Notice  Product Prices, Features, Specifications and Availability Are Subject To Change Without Notice 


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Model Name  Strat® (Maple) (Special Edition) 
Model Number  031-0603-(503) 
Series  Affinity Series 
Colors  (503) 2-Color Sunburst,
(Polyurethane Finish) 
Body  Alder 
Neck  Maple 
Fingerboard  Maple, 9.5” Radius (241 mm) 
No. of Frets  21 Medium Jumbo 
Pickups  3 Single-Coil Pickups 
Controls  Master Volume,
Tone 1. (Neck Pickup),
Tone 2. (Middle Pickup) 
Pickup Switching  5-Position Blade:
Position 1. Bridge Pickup
Position 2. Bridge and Middle Pickup
Position 3. Middle Pickup
Position 4. Middle and Neck Pickup
Position 5. Neck Pickup 
Bridge  Synchronous Tremolo 
Machine Heads  Standard Die-Cast Tuners 
Hardware  Chrome 
Pickguard  1-Ply White 
Scale Length  25.5” (648 mm) 
Width at Nut  1.61” (40.9 mm) 
Unique Features  Large Headstock ‘60s Style Headstock,
White Plastic Parts,
Black Silkscreen Logo,
Dot Position Inlays 
Strings  Fender Super 250L, (.009 to .042) Nickel Plated Steel p/n 073-0250-003 
Accessories  None 
Introduced  1/2001 
Notice  Product Prices, Features, Specifications and Availability Are Subject To Change Without Notice 




everone says that a big difference is in the wood quality but they both have alder bodies and maple necks, and maple fingerboards. now i see that the fender has a c-neck degisn but is that such a big difference?

i know that the electronics and hardware of the 2 are much different, and i plan on replacing the neck, pickups, bridge and tuners on my squier

other than the "features" section, i can't really figure out the big difference. also, if i get goo neck and hardware replacements, my squier should have most of the stuff in the "featres" section

if i upgraded my squier, would it be that much worse than a fender MIA? im thinking it must be better than a MIM but i couldnt find specs on the MIM

should i be upgrading my squier or should i get a MIM? MIA is realy out of my budget right now.

everyone keeps telling me that squiers are garbage, but it's seemed like a solid guitar for the time that ive had it. I haven't really spent enough time with a MIA to have an opinion


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:33 am 
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How much money are you planning on spending? What kind of amp are you using? Have you played any higher end guitars to compare what they feel like to what you're used to?

Squire guitars are most likely made with the wood Fender purchases that gets the lowest quality rating and the pickups are garbage for a serious guitar. Squire's are great for getting something to learn on and to see if you like playing guitar.

If you really want to put together a decent guitar at a low cost there are a lot of options and the best one is buying something used. You should get a used MIM and then perform a few upgrades to the pickups, electronics, and tuners.

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 Post subject: Re: difference between a squier and fender
PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 9:59 am 
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froot wrote:
everyone keeps telling me that squiers are garbage, but it's seemed like a solid guitar for the time that ive had it. I haven't really spent enough time with a MIA to have an opinion

Regardless of your time with an MIA, Squiers are FAR from garbage. My Squier VM Thinline Tele has a beautiful maple neck, rw fretboard, and nice fretwork.

The body on it is alder. It plays great, but it'd be great to know if it was built from a multitude of pieces, as compared to a Fender?

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