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 Post subject: 50s Precision Bass (and 50s Roadworn)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:24 pm 
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http://www.fender.com/products/search.p ... 0131702303

http://www.fender.com/products/roadworn ... dNo=013171

What do you think of these? Fender's website sucks for information on guitars these days. Anyone know anything about them other than what is on the Fender page? How's the pickup? What's the body? Anyone have problems with the bridge? My old MIM standard always broke strings at the bridge. Any other problems or particular awesomeness?

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 Post subject: Re: 50s Precision Bass (and 50s Roadworn)
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:39 am 
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I sold that MIM a few years ago, when I got my H1, which has never broken a string in 6/7 years. :)

Personally I'm not into the whole relic idea, but if it has better components than the non-worn one, then at least I can make a better decision. I'd much rather have one that earned its wear fair and square over the years.

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 Post subject: Re: 50s Precision Bass (and 50s Roadworn)
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:46 pm 
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Sabre Lane wrote:
garbanzo wrote:
I sold that MIM a few years ago, when I got my H1, which has never broken a string in 6/7 years. :)

Is that due to a good bridge or have you just mellowed with age? :P


Probably a little of both. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: 50s Precision Bass (and 50s Roadworn)
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:03 pm 
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garbanzo wrote:
http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0131702303

http://www.fender.com/products/roadworn ... dNo=013171

What do you think of these? Fender's website sucks for information on guitars these days. Anyone know anything about them other than what is on the Fender page? How's the pickup? What's the body? Anyone have problems with the bridge? My old MIM standard always broke strings at the bridge. Any other problems or particular awesomeness?



I've got an '09 50's P in Blond. Body is alder (Not sure if they still are...Fender no longer specifies.) I haven't played the RW, but I did A/B my 50's P against the AV '57 before I bought it. The AV '57 just didn't feel like it should cost $600 more than my MIM...I'm not knocking the AV '57, but that's how good this MIM sounded/felt.

I actually like the 1.75" neck width...nice change of pace from my MIA FL Jazz and CIJ Jag. Maple neck has a great grain, and this bass has punch for days. I put on a set of Flats, and this bass is my Motown machine. I don't see the 50's in stores too much, but play as many as you can and you'll find a good one like mine. Good luck with your search!

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 Post subject: Re: 50s Precision Bass (and 50s Roadworn)
PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:36 pm 
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I really dig my RW P. I bought it in spite of the relicing. It's real light - lighter than some of my guitars. One of the straightest necks I've ever played. It was a case where the bass literally jumped of the wall at me!

I finished sanding the back of the neck, and finished it like my Music Man with gunstock oil.

The pickup is a standard MIM. I ended up putting a DiMarzio Model P in.

The combo of the big thick neck, light weight thin finish body, and just overall mojo was the deal for me.


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 Post subject: Re: 50s Precision Bass (and 50s Roadworn)
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I have both of those guitars. I put a Dimarzio in the Roadworn and a 70's Dimarzio in the 50's classic. I think they sound great. I use the Roadworn as my main bass right now. I used the 50's classic as my main bass before I got the Roadworn. My Classic has a maple neck. Both basses are alder. I think they are very well made good playing basses. I have USA P's and Jazzes and I put the two Mex basses on the same par as the USA's. I am just as happy with the Roadworn and the Classic as I am with any of my other basses. I'd like to try a Roadworn Jazz. One thing I don't worry about with the Roadworn is bumping it at a gig. Our singer is always wacking the headstock by accident and in tight quarters I tend to bump it a little. The thing is- it still sounds really good after I nick it.

I felt the pick ups needed replaced on both basses. I need some extra punch and ring for the music we play. Changing the pick ups did the job.
On the Roadworn neck- the laquer finish on the back of the neck is pretty thin. After playing it and rubbing on it all night the finish seems to disinigrate every so slightly and I can feel little balled up laquer particals- at least that's what I think it is. None of my other basses do that. I'll take a little piece of 600 wet sand paper and go over the back of the neck. Eventually it will wear down enough and I'll do the gun stock wax thing like the other guy was talking about. The gun stock wax is a great finish for a bare wood neck. It's really smooth and makes the neck "fast".


I've had the Classic for a year and a halfor so and the Roadworn for about a year. I would recommend them and I guess you can tell that by my post. They are priced right - used I got my Classic for about 500 near mint and my Roadworn new for 700! Both were without cases.


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 Post subject: Re: 50s Precision Bass (and 50s Roadworn)
PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 5:12 am 
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Sabre Lane wrote:

On my last gig, the singer just missed getting hit by less than an inch.
(I didn't even know he was there, because he's usually behind a keyboard.)
After the gig, he said "It's my fault, you did warn me.". :D


When I was younger, in a Hardcore band, this guy that new my girlfriend at the time was talking to her. She was sitting w/her friend on the side of the stage by me. So I told this guy, watch where you stand cuz there is a 5 foot radius (10 ft circle) around me. Sure enough 2nd song starts, whacked him in the nose, bass went out of tune, he got upset started cursing me....next we both fell off the stage punching each other. The crowd went nuts, some of his friends tried to get to me, but no luck, the bouncers got to all of us...yeah even me, but I was able to get back up on stage...ah youth....

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 Post subject: Re: 50s Precision Bass (and 50s Roadworn)
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His schnoz hit one of the tuners it must've. Cuz both D and G were out of tune. That was a great night, other than losing 7 minutes of our gig due to trading punches. Who hits on a girl that her boyfriend was on stage...LOL, stupidity of youth :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: 50s Precision Bass (and 50s Roadworn)
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I've hit our singer in the head once. I've come real close to just beaning the guitar player in the melon also. I tend to RAWK OUT a bit and sometimes I put myself in their 5 foot circumference. Some of the little stages we've played on- everybody is in each others territory. I've come close to hitting a couple girls who were dancing too close. I kind of like the dancing close thing but somebody is going to get hurt. It's all fun and games untill somebody puts an eye out.


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 Post subject: Re: 50s Precision Bass (and 50s Roadworn)
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Finally found one at a shop about an hour away, so we're going down Saturday before practice. I'll let you know what I think.

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 Post subject: Re: 50s Precision Bass (and 50s Roadworn)
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Geez- the girls will come right up and bump my mic and it hits me in the lip. They fall over the monitors. They will grab my cheat sheet. They spill drinks. They trip on the light stands. They will come right up on stage . Those dar n girls anyway! You gotta love 'em.


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Dude- those ARE the upscale places!!!!! HA! :D


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 Post subject: Re: 50s Precision Bass (and 50s Roadworn)
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The only difference I've seen between the two models in question is the finish. The electronics and hardware appear identical. The wood came from the same pile.

The 50's Roadworn is finished in nitrocellulose lacquer then given a light relic treatment. The nitro is easier to relic than the much harder poly. The 50's model is finished in poly and not beat up. It would have been great if Fender had offered the 50's model in nitrocellulose also.

True the body wood is now mystery wood as many MIM basses no longer state body wood type on the specs. That is not all bad news though. A great piece of basswood is nice to have. Some MIM basses still specify body wood though, such as the Mike Dirnt.


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 Post subject: Re: 50s Precision Bass (and 50s Roadworn)
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I have played an alder Classic '50s for many gigs, but I finally fell out of love with it after playing a July 4th gig outdoors (104F). My forearm was sliding around on the body and it was hard to keep the bass where I needed it. That led to my buying an American Vintage '57, also alder, with the nitro finish by September. The feel is a lot different to me, but others may be less sensitive. By the way, I'm also a bit of a snob about "relic" finishes -- I want MY dings on a bass -- but the local recording studio has a Roadworn J bass that feels very good. The Roadworn P is certainly less expensive than the '57, but in this case I didn't have to be so careful with the budget. And, speaking of "case" the vintage style case that came with the '57 is gorgeous (if you bought the tweed case for the Roadworn, there would be a lot less difference in price, and the '57 case is more authentic in liner color).

I loved the Classic, but I replaced the pickup with a Quarter Pound; the '57 is as close to perfect as I've found, with the standard pickup.

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 Post subject: Re: 50s Precision Bass (and 50s Roadworn)
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:33 pm 
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I finally played on a RW 50s P today, and I have to say, I wasn't impressed with anything in particular about it. I also played a USA Standard and two different MIM Standards (one at the store, one that belongs to a buddy). At the risk of getting kicked off this board, I still like my Jazz bass better. Maybe I'm too old to switch. ;)

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