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 Post subject: Sting Signature P-Bass without pickguard.
PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:26 pm 
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The Sting signature Precision Bass needs to be redesigned: the pickguard should be removed in order to replicate Sting's own 1953 P-Bass.

One of the reasons about this upgrade is obvious as Sting has removed the pickguard from his '53 Tele Bass a couple of years ago.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:57 am 
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Sting's P-bass is a 1954-56 because of its contoured body.

Nothing prevents you from taking the pick guard off of your Sting bass right now.

It just has a small cavity with some wiring showing.

That is to keep the scammers honest and not passing off a Japanese made Sting bass off as a USA original.

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 Post subject: Re: Sting Signature P-Bass without pickguard.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 10:34 am 
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Contoured bodies officially debuted in 1953 and not in 1954. Sting's Tele Bass is a '53 model.

Originally this bass came with a pickguard from the factory and a couple of years later Sting removed it.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:39 pm 
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chromeface wrote:
Contoured bodies officially debuted in 1953 and not in 1954. Sting's Tele Bass is a '53 model.

Sunburst finishes did not come in until late '54.

FMIC & Sting were both wrong in referring to this as a '53.

This was settled years ago on the old FDP. FMIC agreed. :wink:

[This is essentially the basic FJ '54RI with the reviled "Stinglay" and a couple of minor differences. It's neither an accurate copy of a '54 nor Sting's bass.]


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 Post subject: Re: Sting Signature P-Bass without pickguard.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 2:41 pm 
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The now-discontinued slab-body 1951 reissue Tele Bass was available both in butterscotch blonde and 2-tone sunburst (shown).

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 Post subject: Re: Sting Signature P-Bass without pickguard.
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chromeface wrote:
The now-discontinued slab-body 1951 reissue Tele Bass was available both in butterscotch blonde and 2-tone sunburst (shown).

Totally incorrect historically, though, as Fender readily admits. People liked it, I believe it was offered that way in Japan and it was an option for those who simply couldn't face that bizarre schoolbus yellow or the Stinglay. :lol:

None of these strive for historical accuracy, which is just as well. The '55 pickup and the improved trussrod access are big steps forward, for example. They're very "interpretive" RIs. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Sting Signature P-Bass without pickguard.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:05 pm 
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In my humble opinion, the basses look better without being half covered by a pguard. Too much beautiful wood and finishes to be covering them up.


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john11.2526@gmail.com wrote:
Too much beautiful wood and finishes to be covering them up.

The pickguard isn't there to cover up the wood, it's there to cover up the holes. :lol:


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My '53 is November '53 at the earliest. The cavity is signed gloria 11-17-53. My bass is a SLAB! If countour bodies appear in '53 it was really late. I have had more than one of these basses & never saw a countour body '53.


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 Post subject: Re: Sting Signature P-Bass without pickguard.
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I don't think there are contoured '53 Precision basses.

When they contoured the basses, Fender had to make the pickguard smaller.
they did not make slabs and contoured bodies together so I think the change didn't happen until mid-year 1954.

I could be wrong.

If somebody owns a 1954 Precision with an early year date, let us know about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Sting Signature P-Bass without pickguard.
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Hi, new here

I have been reading this thread and have a new twist on your discussion. I have a 57 P-bass dated 1-57 that is the same configuration as a 56 but the body is the later 1957 in contour and color. I got it 38 years ago and it was sanded down to bare wood. I paid $25 for it, slapped some clear poly on it, gigged with it for years and it is being refinished per original specs as of now. I am older, can afford to do it right and then park it on a stand for a while. It had a modern 3 color sunburst finish originally and that is going back on - all in nitro. I won't get it back for sometime as he wants it to cure at his shop.
I had the guy order a tortoise p/g because I hate the black one. It looks like an aborted afterthought on Leo's behalf, IMO. I have had it that long and that is my opinion. I will most likely remove that p/g guard as well.
My LP goldtop has no p/g because I find it to be hideous. Strat has to have one and PRS never offered one. I ordered/built the others I have to be rear routed so no more p/g. I really dislike them.


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 Post subject: Re: Sting Signature P-Bass without pickguard.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 12:48 am 
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Welcome.

Did you have pictures of your bass to post?


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 Post subject: Re: Sting Signature P-Bass without pickguard.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:20 am 
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Bezmotivnik wrote:
chromeface wrote:
The now-discontinued slab-body 1951 reissue Tele Bass was available both in butterscotch blonde and 2-tone sunburst (shown).

Totally incorrect historically, though, as Fender readily admits. People liked it, I believe it was offered that way in Japan and it was an option for those who simply couldn't face that bizarre schoolbus yellow or the Stinglay. :lol:

None of these strive for historical accuracy, which is just as well. The '55 pickup and the improved trussrod access are big steps forward, for example. They're very "interpretive" RIs. :wink:


I like my sunburst 51's, historically accurate or not!


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 Post subject: Re: Sting Signature P-Bass without pickguard.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:46 am 
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chromeface wrote:
The Sting signature Precision Bass needs to be redesigned: the pickguard should be removed in order to replicate Sting's own 1953 P-Bass.

One of the reasons about this upgrade is obvious as Sting has removed the pickguard from his '53 Tele Bass a couple of years ago.

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There's some slightly off info in this thread. Please read this page regarding the year the instrument is based upon according to FMIC. http://www.fender.com/news/sting-on-his-fender-bass/

Also if you remove the guard on the Sting you are left with a rectangular routing hole that you can see wires through. Not very pretty.


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 Post subject: Re: Sting Signature P-Bass without pickguard.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:15 am 
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Sting feels older with his beard.

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