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 Post subject: S-1 Switching System with the Clapton Mid Boost + TBX
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:42 pm 
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I don't think there are any Fender production models that have both the S-1 switching system as well as the Clapton Mid-Boost circuit. I think the CMBoost is always paired with the TBX circuit.
Anyone here ever tried pairing the Mid-Boost with the S-1 switching system?
I've tried both and liked them both.
For that matter, combining all three should be possible I think.


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 Post subject: Re: S-1 Switching System with the Clapton Mid Boost + TBX
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:54 pm 
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There's an awful lot of wiring involved with both the boost and S-1, not to mention the PCB and battery. The PCB can be installed under the pots but it is tight. I'd be willing to bet that you would have to route the guitar like the Clapton model to fit everything in and not have noise problems.

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 Post subject: Re: S-1 Switching System with the Clapton Mid Boost + TBX
PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:51 pm 
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Our guru Big Hair Andy had both schemes on his guitars.


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 Post subject: Re: S-1 Switching System with the Clapton Mid Boost + TBX
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chromeface wrote:
Our guru Big Hair Andy had both schemes on his guitars.


Didn't say that it couldn't be done (anything is possible given enough time and money), but that it would be a bit of work to do it neatly and without noise.

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 Post subject: Re: S-1 Switching System with the Clapton Mid Boost + TBX
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:55 am 
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I just ordered the mid boost kit for my 1990 Strat Plus. Currently I have a push-pull switch in there to give me the 7 different PU combos. I do love the neck / bridge combo for country picking, the all pickup position is less useful.

On one hand I was hoping to be able to keep the 7 positions, on the other I really don't want to route out this guitar. I think I will install the mid boost as supplied and just save up for a nice Tele to get my twang on, :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: S-1 Switching System with the Clapton Mid Boost + TBX
PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 7:26 am 
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In case anyone hasn't seen this:

http://areyouexperienced.net/fender_cla ... st_kit.htm

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 Post subject: Re: S-1 Switching System with the Clapton Mid Boost + TBX
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bluesky636 wrote:

Wow, that's a great resource, thanks!

And thanks to everybody for responses!
From what I can tell, it should be possible to wire both systems together.


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 Post subject: Re: S-1 Switching System with the Clapton Mid Boost + TBX
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If you plan on installing the booster kit, you would have to replace the gain pot with a 250K ohm S-1 switch pot. Or, you could replace the TBX pot with the S-1 but I surmise you wouldn't want to lose the TBX. See, the volume pot in the boost circuit is and should be a 50K ohm and the S-1 is only made in 250K and 500K ohms which make it a compatible replacement with either of the other two pots only.

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 Post subject: Re: S-1 Switching System with the Clapton Mid Boost + TBX
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Martian wrote:
If you plan on installing the booster kit, you would have to replace the gain pot with a 250K ohm S-1 switch pot. Or, you could replace the TBX pot with the S-1 but I surmise you wouldn't want to lose the TBX. See, the volume pot in the boost circuit is and should be a 50K ohm and the S-1 is only made in 250K and 500K ohms which make it a compatible replacement with either of the other two pots only.
So does that mean that I would have to drop the TBX if I wanted to add the mid-boost?
Or does it mean that I can only have the S-1 or the mid-boost/TBX but not both?
Sorry, I'm not electronics savy.


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 Post subject: Re: S-1 Switching System with the Clapton Mid Boost + TBX
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Mister Mxyzptlk wrote:
Martian wrote:
If you plan on installing the booster kit, you would have to replace the gain pot with a 250K ohm S-1 switch pot. Or, you could replace the TBX pot with the S-1 but I surmise you wouldn't want to lose the TBX. See, the volume pot in the boost circuit is and should be a 50K ohm and the S-1 is only made in 250K and 500K ohms which make it a compatible replacement with either of the other two pots only.
So does that mean that I would have to drop the TBX if I wanted to add the mid-boost?
Or does it mean that I can only have the S-1 or the mid-boost/TBX but not both?
Sorry, I'm not electronics savy.


You can keep the TBX pot but you would have to replace the gain pot with the S-1 pot.

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 Post subject: Re: S-1 Switching System with the Clapton Mid Boost + TBX
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For those who're interested combining the TBX/MDX thing with the S1 switch, here's a wiring diagram (thanks, Andy! :) )

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Please note that both schemes can also be used with full-sized humbuckers (Lace Duallies included).

There's a discussion topic already open:

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Alternatively you can purchase a preloaded Strat pickguard from James Tyler and drop it into your guitar.

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 Post subject: Re: S-1 Switching System with the Clapton Mid Boost + TBX
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Alternatively you can purchase a preloaded Strat pickguard from James Tyler and drop it into your guitar.

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 Post subject: Re: S-1 Switching System with the Clapton Mid Boost + TBX
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Thanks for the further replies.
Forgive me, but now I'm even more confused. :oops:
If the mid-boost requires a 50K pot and the schematic shows one in the volume position, then how can this be achieved since (as far as I know) no one makes a 50k S-1 switch.
I've found both 250k and 500k versions of the switch (I think it was at AllParts).

Also, I found an thread from a different forum (don't know if I can post the link here or not) that questioned the reliability of the S-1 switch. Apparently some players have had some issues.


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 Post subject: Re: S-1 Switching System with the Clapton Mid Boost + TBX
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*Bump* Hello There. While doing a google search on this problem and I have an idea: since the s1 pot and the 50 K Fender Midboost Volume are very similar in construction, you could just open the two up and swap the carbon traces. should be simple enough, some pliers, a flathead screwdriver, not too hard to do


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 Post subject: Re: S-1 Switching System with the Clapton Mid Boost + TBX
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b_rice111 wrote:
*Bump* Hello There. While doing a google search on this problem and I have an idea: since the s1 pot and the 50 K Fender Midboost Volume are very similar in construction, you could just open the two up and swap the carbon traces. should be simple enough, some pliers, a flathead screwdriver, not too hard to do


Yea... OK... :roll:

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