When did the SE replace the original?

What is the differences between these 2 models?

Thanks.

It didn't replace the original Twin. The Cyber series are completely different amps from the original Twin..

Wasn't there a Cyber-Twin then a Cyber-Twin SE?

Oh, you're talking Cyber Twins. It sounded like you thought it replaced the Twin Reverb. I'm not sure, I lost interest in the CT after I tried it. You don't see a lot of CT users on this or many other forums. Somebody must be buying them because Fender keeps making them.

Is Fender still manufacturing the CT chassis or are they just emptying the warehouse of what has already been built?
You'd expect to see a lot more action on the forums if sales were booming.
Of course I'm just guessing & have no way of really knowing.

You are correct in that the CT SE replaced the original CT. The SE version came out in 2004 and is the only Cyber series amp still in production. I own a Cyber Deluxe which is a single 12" speaker version but unlike the CT has a solid state pre amp. The SE versions primary difference are more powerful processors. While many people dis the Cyber amps I feel they offer the most realistic effort at amp modeling to date. Having said that, they still don't sound exactly like the tube amp they simulate. However with one amp you can get a variety of amps in one package. Most players however settle on one package they like and buy it as opposed to trying to get everything in the Cyber amps. A worthy effort that works for many players and despite owning a Cyber Deluxe myself (which I like) you still can't beat a nice tube amp

A little background:

I'm still a newbie and I wanted to upgrade a bit from my practice amp. I like a lot of different music and I like play different music. All rock/blues.

I really do not think it's a wise choice to lock in on any particular tube amp (although I do like the Deluxe Reverb) yet, even though they sound really good. I'm not ready for prime time anywhere, so gigging is not an issue. The other aspect is the cost not only for the amp but also for stomp boxes, etc. to get the different effects not built into a tube amp.

Of all the modeling amps, the SE has the best sound I've heard. It does have versatility and the sound is not sterile like a Line 6.

It all just personal taste. Like I said, some folks love modeling amps, it's just not my thing, but then again tube amp's are pretty much all I've ever played since the 60's. I you like it you should roll with it.

'Bought a used original-design C-T about 5 years ago and still freaking love it.

Only 2 12AX7s to replace now and then and it sounds good enough for these ears.

for diffs, see the manuals at http://www.generalcybersystems.com/GCSW ... ources.php
the SE manual, page 154,

This Chapter covers the manual procedure to transfer the Player’s Lounge from the Cyber Twin CT to the Cyber Twin SE. The reason why this can be done is because the SE is a superset of the CT tones and effects. In general, The Cyber Twin SE settings cannot transfer to the Cyber Twin CT.
Compared to the Cyber Twin SE, the Cyber Twin CT does not have the following:
A. Preset Effects:
6. Auto Pan delay
7. Fuzz
8. Resolver
9. Pedal Pitcher
10. Overdrive
11. Alienator
12. Pedal Wah + Delay
13. Touch Wah + Delay
14. Pedal Wah + Fuzz
15. Touch Wah + Fuzz
16. Fuzz + Delay
17. Octave + Tape Echo
18. Mid Boost + Tape Echo
19. Overdrive + Tape Echo

B. Timbre
1. Drop Scoop
2. Super Bright
3. Squawk
4. Acoustic Scoop

C. Hum Redux

D. Tone Stacks Neo-British and Dyna-Touch

Other items of interest:

A. Despite the different names, the Dyna Touch 4 Drive Circuitry on the Cyber Twin CT is the same as the Extreme Drive Circuitry on the Cyber Twin SE.

B. Pedal Assignment Reverb Diffusion on Cyber Twin CT will NOT be transferred to the Cyber Twin SE because the Pedal Assignment Reverb Diffusion is not part of the Cyber Twin CT’s Player’s Lounge data.

C. The Cyber Twin CT can have up to 85 Player’s Lounge settings, the Cyber Twin SE can have up to 100 Player’s Lounge settings. There 85 Custom Shop and 35 Your Amp presets on the CT, there are 100 Custom Shop and 50 Your Amp presets on the CT. The SE and CT share many similar presets; however the SE has some new ones.

D. The Cyber Twin SE does not have a Demo Mode, the Cyber Twin CT does.

there's more, read the manual.

there are also hardware diffs, including the upgraded tube anti-rattle kit. the SE is in general, a step up.

ciao,
johnny.

About time another CyberTwin SE fan woke up from hybernation.

CT is the best thing that ever happened to me... with the CT commander as a good 2nd

I can get every sound or tone I possibly think of.
From the cleanest strat sound to mellow Blues, crying overdriven rock ballad to pink Floyd alike sounds.

I just wish I could have a top and a cab (for weight sake)

examples ?
Floyd : http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8772455
Rock balad : http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7403427
Mellow Blues : http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6391749
or clean strat : http://soundclick.com/share?songid=6982709

The thing is, I start building sounds from scratch (98%)

Lefty, those clips sound good. You know the CT is a good amp when a player like Buddy Guy uses one. Although Buddy uses a Chicago Blues Box a lot he is still a big CT fan as well.

Buddy Guy used two C-Ts in Chicago not long ago and was truly amazing.

Interesting.......
I saw Buddy Guy live last June, (2009) & walked up to within 20 feet of the stage befoe he came on. The stage was brightly lit & I could see everything. There were no cyber twins on the stage.

http://chicagobluesbox.com/content/news ... ticleID=18

It appears Buddy fooled around with the CT's a little, but went back to the good old all tube Fender Bassman.
Now he got these guys to make him a clone of a great Fender amp.